WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.860 align:middle line:90% 00:00:07.860 --> 00:00:10.480 align:middle line:84% The time having arrived to which the Senate had previously 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.560 align:middle line:84% adjourned, the Senate will be in order. 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:15.810 align:middle line:84% The Chair would ask all members guests and staff 00:00:15.810 --> 00:00:19.300 align:middle line:84% to rise and join the Senator from Worcester, Mr. Fattman, 00:00:19.300 --> 00:00:20.660 align:middle line:90% in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:20.660 --> 00:00:27.324 align:middle line:90% 00:00:27.324 --> 00:00:32.000 align:middle line:84% I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.800 align:middle line:84% and to the republic for which it stands, 00:00:34.800 --> 00:00:38.900 align:middle line:84% one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty 00:00:38.900 --> 00:00:40.280 align:middle line:90% and justice for all. 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.160 align:middle line:90% 00:00:43.160 --> 00:00:45.270 align:middle line:84% Several resolutions have been presented 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:47.060 align:middle line:90% which the clerk will read. 00:00:47.060 --> 00:00:49.100 align:middle line:84% By Senators Chandler and Moore resolutions-- 00:00:49.100 --> 00:00:54.440 align:middle line:84% congratulating VNA Care Network Inc. on its 125th anniversary. 00:00:54.440 --> 00:00:56.510 align:middle line:84% By Mr. Hinds resolutions-- congratulating 00:00:56.510 --> 00:00:59.930 align:middle line:84% the Town of Lenox on its 250th anniversary. 00:00:59.930 --> 00:01:02.540 align:middle line:84% By Mr. Lesser resolutions-- commending Jim Madigan 00:01:02.540 --> 00:01:05.690 align:middle line:84% on his lifetime of achievements in journalism and reporting. 00:01:05.690 --> 00:01:08.060 align:middle line:90% And by Mr. Rosenberg-- 00:01:08.060 --> 00:01:10.430 align:middle line:84% resolutions commending the American Cancer Society 00:01:10.430 --> 00:01:13.130 align:middle line:84% Massachusetts Division Inc. on its recognition 00:01:13.130 --> 00:01:15.860 align:middle line:84% of the 25th anniversary of the Making Strides Against Breast 00:01:15.860 --> 00:01:16.955 align:middle line:90% Cancer Walk. 00:01:16.955 --> 00:01:18.830 align:middle line:84% Question comes on adoption of the resolution. 00:01:18.830 --> 00:01:20.880 align:middle line:90% All those in favor, say aye. 00:01:20.880 --> 00:01:21.540 align:middle line:90% Opposed, no. 00:01:21.540 --> 00:01:22.248 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:01:22.248 --> 00:01:24.030 align:middle line:90% And the resolutions are adopted. 00:01:24.030 --> 00:01:26.660 align:middle line:84% The senator from Bristol and Plymouth Mr. Rodrigues 00:01:26.660 --> 00:01:29.660 align:middle line:84% has presented a petition which the clerk will read. 00:01:29.660 --> 00:01:32.350 align:middle line:84% A petition of Michael J. Rodrigues, Donald F. Humason, 00:01:32.350 --> 00:01:35.570 align:middle line:84% Jr., Keiko M. Orrall, Paul A. Schmid III, 00:01:35.570 --> 00:01:37.340 align:middle line:84% and others for legislation to reform 00:01:37.340 --> 00:01:39.858 align:middle line:84% agricultural preservation restrictions. 00:01:39.858 --> 00:01:45.970 align:middle line:84% The senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr moves suspension of Senate rule 00:01:45.970 --> 00:01:48.315 align:middle line:90% 20 and Joint Rule 12. 00:01:48.315 --> 00:01:49.690 align:middle line:84% The question comes on the motion. 00:01:49.690 --> 00:01:52.700 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:01:52.700 --> 00:01:53.410 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:01:53.410 --> 00:01:55.545 align:middle line:90% And the motion prevails. 00:01:55.545 --> 00:01:57.670 align:middle line:84% And the petitions will be referred to the Committee 00:01:57.670 --> 00:02:02.200 align:middle line:84% on Environment, Natural Resources, and Agriculture. 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:03.995 align:middle line:90% Report of a committee. 00:02:03.995 --> 00:02:05.620 align:middle line:84% The committees [INAUDIBLE] branches out 00:02:05.620 --> 00:02:07.953 align:middle line:84% to concurrently to [INAUDIBLE] refer the Senate Petition 00:02:07.953 --> 00:02:10.060 align:middle line:84% of Eileen M. Donahue that provision 00:02:10.060 --> 00:02:12.880 align:middle line:84% be made for an investigation and study by a special commission 00:02:12.880 --> 00:02:14.812 align:middle line:90% relative to mattress recycling. 00:02:14.812 --> 00:02:16.520 align:middle line:84% Reports recommend the journal [INAUDIBLE] 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.570 align:middle line:84% suspend with reference to Mark E. Montigny for the committee. 00:02:19.570 --> 00:02:21.070 align:middle line:84% The senator from Worcester, Miss. 00:02:21.070 --> 00:02:23.560 align:middle line:84% Chandler, moves that Senate Rule 36 be suspended, 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:26.290 align:middle line:84% so that the matter may be considered forthwith. 00:02:26.290 --> 00:02:29.422 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:02:29.422 --> 00:02:30.130 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:02:30.130 --> 00:02:31.750 align:middle line:90% And the rule is suspended. 00:02:31.750 --> 00:02:34.900 align:middle line:84% The question now comes on suspension of Joint Rule 12. 00:02:34.900 --> 00:02:37.642 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:02:37.642 --> 00:02:38.350 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:02:38.350 --> 00:02:39.884 align:middle line:90% And the rules are suspended. 00:02:39.884 --> 00:02:41.800 align:middle line:84% The petition will be referred to the Committee 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:45.670 align:middle line:84% on Environment, Natural Resources, and Agriculture. 00:02:45.670 --> 00:02:48.700 align:middle line:84% One matter comes before the Senate for its final passage. 00:02:48.700 --> 00:02:51.160 align:middle line:84% Actually two matters come before the Senate 00:02:51.160 --> 00:02:53.020 align:middle line:90% for their final passage. 00:02:53.020 --> 00:02:57.760 align:middle line:84% Senate Bill Number 2051, an act authorizing the town of Palmer 00:02:57.760 --> 00:02:59.560 align:middle line:84% to issue an additional license for the sale 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.360 align:middle line:84% of all alcoholic beverages not to be 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.240 align:middle line:84% drunk on the premises and House Bill Number 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.390 align:middle line:84% 2780, an act establishing the Department of Inspectional 00:03:07.390 --> 00:03:10.930 align:middle line:84% Services and Permitting in the Town of Lakeville. 00:03:10.930 --> 00:03:13.540 align:middle line:84% Question comes on passing the bills to be enacted. 00:03:13.540 --> 00:03:16.442 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed no. 00:03:16.442 --> 00:03:17.150 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:03:17.150 --> 00:03:18.190 align:middle line:84% The bills are passed to be enacted, 00:03:18.190 --> 00:03:20.830 align:middle line:84% will be signed by the President, laid before the Governor 00:03:20.830 --> 00:03:21.681 align:middle line:90% for his approbation. 00:03:21.681 --> 00:03:23.430 align:middle line:84% The Senate will be in a very brief recess. 00:03:23.430 --> 00:03:32.220 align:middle line:90% 00:03:32.220 --> 00:03:34.452 align:middle line:90% --a report of a committee. 00:03:34.452 --> 00:03:36.660 align:middle line:84% The Committee rules [INAUDIBLE] refer the Senate Bill 00:03:36.660 --> 00:03:38.760 align:middle line:84% naming a certain bridge in the City of Fall River 00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:41.520 align:middle line:84% as the Leonard Lenny Kaplan Memorial Bridge Senate Number 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.980 align:middle line:84% 2098 reports the [INAUDIBLE] replace the [INAUDIBLE] day 00:03:43.980 --> 00:03:45.980 align:middle line:84% for the next session with an amendment inserting 00:03:45.980 --> 00:03:48.630 align:middle line:84% before the enacting clause in an emergency preamble. 00:03:48.630 --> 00:03:50.645 align:middle line:84% Mark C. Montigny for the Committee. 00:03:50.645 --> 00:03:52.020 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Worcester, Miss. 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:53.520 align:middle line:84% Chandler, asked unanimous consent 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.800 align:middle line:84% that the rules be suspended to allow the matter 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:56.970 align:middle line:90% to be considered forthwith. 00:03:56.970 --> 00:03:58.570 align:middle line:90% Is there an objection? 00:03:58.570 --> 00:03:59.884 align:middle line:90% Chair hears none. 00:03:59.884 --> 00:04:01.050 align:middle line:90% And the rules are suspended. 00:04:01.050 --> 00:04:02.841 align:middle line:84% The question now comes on ordering the bill 00:04:02.841 --> 00:04:04.890 align:middle line:84% to a third reading coming first on an amendment 00:04:04.890 --> 00:04:07.380 align:middle line:84% as recommended by the Committee on rules. 00:04:07.380 --> 00:04:09.300 align:middle line:84% The question comes on the adoption 00:04:09.300 --> 00:04:11.200 align:middle line:90% of the rules amendment. 00:04:11.200 --> 00:04:13.900 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:04:13.900 --> 00:04:14.670 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:04:14.670 --> 00:04:17.640 align:middle line:84% And the rules amendment is adopted. 00:04:17.640 --> 00:04:20.130 align:middle line:84% The question will now come on ordering the bill as amended 00:04:20.130 --> 00:04:21.360 align:middle line:90% to a third reading. 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.432 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:04:24.432 --> 00:04:25.140 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:04:25.140 --> 00:04:27.120 align:middle line:84% And the bill is ordered to a third reading, 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.560 align:middle line:90% third reading of the bill. 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.360 align:middle line:84% An act naming a certain bridge in the City 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.820 align:middle line:84% of Fall River as the Leonard "Lenny" Kaplan 00:04:32.820 --> 00:04:35.750 align:middle line:84% Memorial Bridge Senate Number 2098 amended. 00:04:35.750 --> 00:04:37.530 align:middle line:84% The bill has been read a third time. 00:04:37.530 --> 00:04:39.821 align:middle line:84% The question comes on passing the bill to be engrossed. 00:04:39.821 --> 00:04:42.280 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:04:42.280 --> 00:04:45.180 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is passed to be engrossed. 00:04:45.180 --> 00:04:47.005 align:middle line:90% Report of a committee. 00:04:47.005 --> 00:04:48.630 align:middle line:84% The Committee on Ways and Means to whom 00:04:48.630 --> 00:04:50.504 align:middle line:84% is referred the Senate Bill to further define 00:04:50.504 --> 00:04:53.197 align:middle line:84% standards of employee safety, Senate Number 2072. 00:04:53.197 --> 00:04:54.780 align:middle line:84% Reports recommend the same [INAUDIBLE] 00:04:54.780 --> 00:04:57.150 align:middle line:84% to pass with an amendment substituting a new draft 00:04:57.150 --> 00:04:59.940 align:middle line:84% with the same title Senate Number 2167, 00:04:59.940 --> 00:05:01.740 align:middle line:84% Karen E. Spilka for the Committee. 00:05:01.740 --> 00:05:04.200 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka, 00:05:04.200 --> 00:05:07.510 align:middle line:84% has presented an order which the clerk will read. 00:05:07.510 --> 00:05:10.560 align:middle line:84% Ordered that notwithstanding Senate Rule 7 or any other rule 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.680 align:middle line:84% to the contrary, the Senate Bill to further define 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.190 align:middle line:84% the standards of employee safety, 00:05:15.190 --> 00:05:17.947 align:middle line:84% Senate Number 2072, the Committee on Ways and Means, 00:05:17.947 --> 00:05:19.530 align:middle line:84% having recommended the bill be amended 00:05:19.530 --> 00:05:22.382 align:middle line:84% by substituting a new draft Senate Number 2167, 00:05:22.382 --> 00:05:24.840 align:middle line:84% shall be placed in the orders of the day for second reading 00:05:24.840 --> 00:05:28.287 align:middle line:90% on Wednesday, October 4, 2017. 00:05:28.287 --> 00:05:30.120 align:middle line:84% All amendments shall be filed electronically 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:31.786 align:middle line:84% in the Office of the Clerk of the Senate 00:05:31.786 --> 00:05:35.030 align:middle line:84% by 5:00 PM on Monday, October 2, 2017. 00:05:35.030 --> 00:05:37.620 align:middle line:84% And all such amendments shall be second reading amendments 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:39.039 align:middle line:90% to Senate Number 2167. 00:05:39.039 --> 00:05:41.580 align:middle line:84% But further amendments in the third degree to such amendments 00:05:41.580 --> 00:05:42.720 align:middle line:90% shall be in order. 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.240 align:middle line:84% The Clerk shall further specify the procedure and format 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:47.449 align:middle line:84% for filing all amendments consistent with this order. 00:05:47.449 --> 00:05:49.906 align:middle line:84% After the bill is amended, it is ordered to a third reading 00:05:49.906 --> 00:05:51.698 align:middle line:84% and shall immediately be read a third time. 00:05:51.698 --> 00:05:53.322 align:middle line:84% And the question shall then immediately 00:05:53.322 --> 00:05:54.812 align:middle line:84% be in passing it to be engrossed. 00:05:54.812 --> 00:05:56.270 align:middle line:84% And no amendments shall be in order 00:05:56.270 --> 00:05:58.395 align:middle line:84% of the third reading of the bill unless recommended 00:05:58.395 --> 00:06:01.560 align:middle line:84% by the Committee on Bills in the third reading. 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.990 align:middle line:84% Under the rules, refer to the Committee on Rules. 00:06:03.990 --> 00:06:04.771 align:middle line:90% Report of-- 00:06:04.771 --> 00:06:06.520 align:middle line:84% The Committee on Rules to whom is referred 00:06:06.520 --> 00:06:08.040 align:middle line:84% send an order report recommending the same 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:08.910 align:middle line:90% ought to be adopted. 00:06:08.910 --> 00:06:10.890 align:middle line:84% Mark C. Montigny for the Committee. 00:06:10.890 --> 00:06:12.427 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Worcester, Miss. 00:06:12.427 --> 00:06:14.260 align:middle line:84% Chandler, moves that the rules be suspended, 00:06:14.260 --> 00:06:16.410 align:middle line:84% so that the matter may be considered forthwith. 00:06:16.410 --> 00:06:19.300 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:20.010 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:06:20.010 --> 00:06:21.750 align:middle line:90% And the rules are suspended. 00:06:21.750 --> 00:06:24.030 align:middle line:84% The question now comes on adoption of the order. 00:06:24.030 --> 00:06:27.070 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:06:27.070 --> 00:06:28.110 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:06:28.110 --> 00:06:29.430 align:middle line:90% And the order is adopted. 00:06:29.430 --> 00:06:31.315 align:middle line:90% Report of a Committee. 00:06:31.315 --> 00:06:32.940 align:middle line:84% The Committee on Ways and Means to whom 00:06:32.940 --> 00:06:35.580 align:middle line:84% is referred the Senate Bill relative to handicap parking, 00:06:35.580 --> 00:06:36.914 align:middle line:90% Senate Number 2099. 00:06:36.914 --> 00:06:38.580 align:middle line:84% Reports recommend the same ought to pass 00:06:38.580 --> 00:06:41.204 align:middle line:84% with an amendment substituting a new draft with the same title, 00:06:41.204 --> 00:06:42.825 align:middle line:90% Senate Number 2168. 00:06:42.825 --> 00:06:45.690 align:middle line:84% Karen E. Spilka for the Committee. 00:06:45.690 --> 00:06:48.090 align:middle line:84% The senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka, 00:06:48.090 --> 00:06:50.730 align:middle line:84% has presented an order which the Clerk will read. 00:06:50.730 --> 00:06:53.580 align:middle line:84% Notwithstanding the Senate Rule 7 or any other rule 00:06:53.580 --> 00:06:55.350 align:middle line:84% to the contrary, the Senate Bill relative 00:06:55.350 --> 00:06:57.672 align:middle line:84% to handicap parking, Senate Number 2099, the Committee 00:06:57.672 --> 00:06:59.880 align:middle line:84% on Ways and Means having recommended that the bill be 00:06:59.880 --> 00:07:02.475 align:middle line:84% amended by substituting a new draft, Senate Number 2168, 00:07:02.475 --> 00:07:05.100 align:middle line:84% shall be placed in the orders of the day for the second reading 00:07:05.100 --> 00:07:08.127 align:middle line:90% on Wednesday, October 4, 2017. 00:07:08.127 --> 00:07:09.960 align:middle line:84% All amendments shall be filed electronically 00:07:09.960 --> 00:07:11.626 align:middle line:84% in the Office of the Clerk of the Senate 00:07:11.626 --> 00:07:15.010 align:middle line:84% by 5:00 PM on Monday, October 2, 2017. 00:07:15.010 --> 00:07:17.260 align:middle line:84% All such amendments shall be second reading amendments 00:07:17.260 --> 00:07:18.980 align:middle line:90% to Senate Number 2168. 00:07:18.980 --> 00:07:21.480 align:middle line:84% But further amendments in the third degree to such amendment 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:22.230 align:middle line:90% shall be in order. 00:07:22.230 --> 00:07:24.420 align:middle line:84% And the Clerk shall specify the procedure and format 00:07:24.420 --> 00:07:26.970 align:middle line:84% for filing all amendments consistent with this order. 00:07:26.970 --> 00:07:29.640 align:middle line:84% After the bill is amended, it is ordered to a third reading. 00:07:29.640 --> 00:07:31.390 align:middle line:84% It shall immediately be read a third time. 00:07:31.390 --> 00:07:33.015 align:middle line:84% And the question shall then immediately 00:07:33.015 --> 00:07:34.500 align:middle line:84% be on passing it to be engrossed. 00:07:34.500 --> 00:07:35.555 align:middle line:84% And no amendment shall be in order 00:07:35.555 --> 00:07:37.320 align:middle line:84% of the third reading of the bill unless recommended 00:07:37.320 --> 00:07:39.278 align:middle line:84% by the Committee on Bills in the third reading. 00:07:39.278 --> 00:07:42.305 align:middle line:90% 00:07:42.305 --> 00:07:44.930 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] to the Committee on Rules, report of the Committee. 00:07:44.930 --> 00:07:46.300 align:middle line:84% The Committee on Rules to whom is referred 00:07:46.300 --> 00:07:48.674 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] Senate order reports recommend the same ought 00:07:48.674 --> 00:07:51.170 align:middle line:84% to be adopted, Mark C. Montigny for the Committee. 00:07:51.170 --> 00:07:53.720 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Worcester, Ms. Chandler, 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.380 align:middle line:84% moves that the rules be suspended, 00:07:55.380 --> 00:07:57.338 align:middle line:84% so that the matter may be considered forthwith. 00:07:57.338 --> 00:08:00.122 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:08:00.122 --> 00:08:00.830 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:08:00.830 --> 00:08:01.996 align:middle line:90% And the rules are suspended. 00:08:01.996 --> 00:08:04.190 align:middle line:84% The question now comes on adoption of the order. 00:08:04.190 --> 00:08:07.140 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:08:07.140 --> 00:08:09.350 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the order is adopted. 00:08:09.350 --> 00:08:11.630 align:middle line:84% If there is no objection, item number 00:08:11.630 --> 00:08:15.020 align:middle line:84% 52 on page three of the calendar, an act amending 00:08:15.020 --> 00:08:17.870 align:middle line:84% the charter of the city known as the Town of Barnstable, 00:08:17.870 --> 00:08:21.410 align:middle line:84% House Bill Number 3706 will be considered forthwith. 00:08:21.410 --> 00:08:23.679 align:middle line:90% Is there an objection? 00:08:23.679 --> 00:08:24.470 align:middle line:90% The chair has none. 00:08:24.470 --> 00:08:27.050 align:middle line:84% The question comes on ordering the bill to a third reading. 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:30.210 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:08:30.210 --> 00:08:31.049 align:middle line:90% The ayes have it. 00:08:31.049 --> 00:08:32.840 align:middle line:84% And the bill is ordered to a third reading. 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:34.480 align:middle line:90% Third reading of the bill-- 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.950 align:middle line:84% An act amending the charter of the city known 00:08:36.950 --> 00:08:40.789 align:middle line:84% as the Town of Barnstable House Number 3706 amended. 00:08:40.789 --> 00:08:42.580 align:middle line:84% The question now comes on passing the bill 00:08:42.580 --> 00:08:43.246 align:middle line:90% to be engrossed. 00:08:43.246 --> 00:08:46.170 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:08:46.170 --> 00:08:49.190 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is passed to be engrossed. 00:08:49.190 --> 00:08:51.530 align:middle line:84% Is there any objection to proceeding 00:08:51.530 --> 00:08:53.660 align:middle line:90% with the orders of the day? 00:08:53.660 --> 00:08:55.070 align:middle line:90% The chair hears none. 00:08:55.070 --> 00:08:58.010 align:middle line:84% On page one, the first item is Calender Item Number 39, 00:08:58.010 --> 00:09:01.439 align:middle line:90% Senate Bill Number 2114. 00:09:01.439 --> 00:09:03.980 align:middle line:84% The question comes on ordering the bill to the third reading. 00:09:03.980 --> 00:09:07.132 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed no. 00:09:07.132 --> 00:09:09.590 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is order to a third reading. 00:09:09.590 --> 00:09:12.770 align:middle line:84% The next item is Calendar Item Number 40, Senate Bill Number 00:09:12.770 --> 00:09:15.154 align:middle line:90% 2115. 00:09:15.154 --> 00:09:17.570 align:middle line:84% Question comes on ordering in the bill to a third reading. 00:09:17.570 --> 00:09:21.020 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:09:21.020 --> 00:09:23.570 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is ordered to a third reading. 00:09:23.570 --> 00:09:27.832 align:middle line:84% Next is Calendar Item Number 41, House Bill Number 2424. 00:09:27.832 --> 00:09:30.290 align:middle line:84% The question comes on ordering the bill to a third reading. 00:09:30.290 --> 00:09:33.750 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:09:33.750 --> 00:09:36.410 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is ordered to a third reading. 00:09:36.410 --> 00:09:41.759 align:middle line:84% The next is Calendar Item Number 42, House Bill Number 2779. 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.050 align:middle line:84% Question comes on ordering the bill to a third reading. 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:47.249 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed no. 00:09:47.249 --> 00:09:49.790 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is ordered to a third reading. 00:09:49.790 --> 00:09:54.040 align:middle line:84% On page two, the next item is Calendar Item Number 43, 00:09:54.040 --> 00:09:56.864 align:middle line:90% House Bill Number 2789. 00:09:56.864 --> 00:09:58.780 align:middle line:84% Question comes on ordering to a third reading. 00:09:58.780 --> 00:10:02.180 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:10:02.180 --> 00:10:04.949 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is ordered to a third reading. 00:10:04.949 --> 00:10:06.490 align:middle line:84% The Senate will be in a brief recess. 00:10:06.490 --> 00:10:09.760 align:middle line:90% 00:10:09.760 --> 00:10:11.710 align:middle line:90% There will be in order. 00:10:11.710 --> 00:10:15.840 align:middle line:84% The orders of the day have been completed. 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.409 align:middle line:90% That's what we call later. 00:10:18.409 --> 00:10:19.950 align:middle line:84% The Senate will be in a brief recess. 00:10:19.950 --> 00:10:28.460 align:middle line:90% 00:10:28.460 --> 00:10:29.780 align:middle line:90% Senate will be in order. 00:10:29.780 --> 00:10:34.100 align:middle line:84% The Chair calls to the rostrum the Senator 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:35.600 align:middle line:84% from Essex, Mr. Tarr and the Senator 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:38.090 align:middle line:84% from Essex, Ms. O'Connor Ives for the purpose 00:10:38.090 --> 00:10:42.230 align:middle line:84% of making a special introduction and, perhaps 00:10:42.230 --> 00:10:45.011 align:middle line:90% later, a presentation. 00:10:45.011 --> 00:10:48.350 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:10:48.350 --> 00:10:50.617 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and good morning. 00:10:50.617 --> 00:10:52.450 align:middle line:84% It is nice to be with you here this morning. 00:10:52.450 --> 00:10:55.270 align:middle line:84% It's nice to see a tremendous purple tie 00:10:55.270 --> 00:10:58.870 align:middle line:84% as we initiate the beginning of our fall formal sessions. 00:10:58.870 --> 00:11:00.940 align:middle line:84% Senator O'Connor Ives and I are very 00:11:00.940 --> 00:11:03.100 align:middle line:84% pleased to have a very distinguished visitor 00:11:03.100 --> 00:11:05.680 align:middle line:84% to the Senate with us this morning. 00:11:05.680 --> 00:11:10.210 align:middle line:84% He is Gerry Maguire, formerly known as Gerard McGuire, 00:11:10.210 --> 00:11:13.630 align:middle line:84% who has recently retired as the Director of Veterans Services 00:11:13.630 --> 00:11:16.430 align:middle line:90% for North Andover and Boxford. 00:11:16.430 --> 00:11:18.970 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, Gerry, in addition 00:11:18.970 --> 00:11:21.400 align:middle line:84% to being a tremendous Veteran Service 00:11:21.400 --> 00:11:23.470 align:middle line:84% Officer for the people in our region, 00:11:23.470 --> 00:11:27.880 align:middle line:84% also has a very distinguished history of serving our country. 00:11:27.880 --> 00:11:31.510 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, he has served our country for 45 years. 00:11:31.510 --> 00:11:34.340 align:middle line:84% And 11 of those were in the United States Army. 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:36.490 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, while in the army, 00:11:36.490 --> 00:11:38.080 align:middle line:84% he was part of the third cavalry, 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:41.920 align:middle line:84% the fourth infantry, the Berlin Brigade, 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:44.950 align:middle line:84% the first of the 76th Field Artillery, 00:11:44.950 --> 00:11:48.820 align:middle line:84% and the 89th and 76th Transportation Corps. 00:11:48.820 --> 00:11:50.800 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, due to an injury, he 00:11:50.800 --> 00:11:54.220 align:middle line:84% was honorably discharged from the United States Army 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:57.190 align:middle line:84% as a Staff Sergeant at the rating of E6. 00:11:57.190 --> 00:12:00.190 align:middle line:84% And while working for the Veterans Services Post 00:12:00.190 --> 00:12:03.700 align:middle line:84% active duty, he was a VA social worker with the Veterans 00:12:03.700 --> 00:12:05.580 align:middle line:90% Affairs Support Housing. 00:12:05.580 --> 00:12:08.440 align:middle line:84% And he worked as a substance abuse and suicide prevention 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:09.400 align:middle line:90% counselor. 00:12:09.400 --> 00:12:12.040 align:middle line:84% And we know how important those roles are. 00:12:12.040 --> 00:12:14.460 align:middle line:84% And we're very fortunate, Mr President, 00:12:14.460 --> 00:12:16.780 align:middle line:84% that on the completion of those services, 00:12:16.780 --> 00:12:20.890 align:middle line:84% he came to the Towns of North Andover and Boxford 00:12:20.890 --> 00:12:22.780 align:middle line:84% to be our Veterans Services Agent. 00:12:22.780 --> 00:12:25.270 align:middle line:84% And I want to ask Senator O'Connor Ives 00:12:25.270 --> 00:12:26.470 align:middle line:90% to say a few words as well. 00:12:26.470 --> 00:12:28.030 align:middle line:90% Because he is our guest. 00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:31.370 align:middle line:84% And we're very proud to have him here with us. 00:12:31.370 --> 00:12:32.350 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:12:32.350 --> 00:12:35.050 align:middle line:84% I think it's very fitting to be in this formal setting 00:12:35.050 --> 00:12:38.110 align:middle line:84% to recognize Gerry Maguire's contributions. 00:12:38.110 --> 00:12:40.390 align:middle line:84% The thing that is special about him 00:12:40.390 --> 00:12:43.630 align:middle line:84% is that even though we have the confines of our district 00:12:43.630 --> 00:12:46.660 align:middle line:84% and his specific scope of responsibilities, 00:12:46.660 --> 00:12:49.600 align:middle line:84% he feels very strongly that no matter where 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.810 align:middle line:84% a veteran lives they are his brothers and sisters. 00:12:52.810 --> 00:12:55.930 align:middle line:84% And they deserve the strongest advocacy possible 00:12:55.930 --> 00:12:59.110 align:middle line:84% whether they're alive with us and need access to benefits 00:12:59.110 --> 00:13:02.470 align:middle line:84% that they've earned, or to make sure that their memories are 00:13:02.470 --> 00:13:04.600 align:middle line:84% honored, no matter when they passed, 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.140 align:middle line:90% no matter where they live. 00:13:06.140 --> 00:13:10.100 align:middle line:84% So it's with some regret that we see you go. 00:13:10.100 --> 00:13:12.580 align:middle line:84% But we know that you won't be able to help but to stay 00:13:12.580 --> 00:13:15.220 align:middle line:84% in the mix and continue to help every veteran that 00:13:15.220 --> 00:13:16.510 align:middle line:90% crosses your path. 00:13:16.510 --> 00:13:18.610 align:middle line:84% We thank you for your public service. 00:13:18.610 --> 00:13:20.980 align:middle line:84% And we wish you the very best in your future endeavors. 00:13:20.980 --> 00:13:24.948 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:13:24.948 --> 00:13:41.812 align:middle line:90% 00:13:41.812 --> 00:13:43.296 align:middle line:90% Senator [INAUDIBLE]. 00:13:43.296 --> 00:13:43.796 align:middle line:90% Oh, sure. 00:13:43.796 --> 00:13:44.296 align:middle line:90% Thanks. 00:13:44.296 --> 00:13:48.260 align:middle line:90% 00:13:48.260 --> 00:13:51.236 align:middle line:84% Do you want to spend a few minutes right after this? 00:13:51.236 --> 00:13:53.760 align:middle line:90% 00:13:53.760 --> 00:13:58.090 align:middle line:84% Senate will now stand in recess until the hour 00:13:58.090 --> 00:14:02.620 align:middle line:84% of 1:00 PM, at which time we will promptly resume 00:14:02.620 --> 00:14:03.880 align:middle line:90% the business of the Senate. 00:14:03.880 --> 00:14:07.730 align:middle line:84% Because we have a full afternoon of activity 00:14:07.730 --> 00:14:13.690 align:middle line:84% which we must dispose of as efficiently as possible. 00:14:13.690 --> 00:14:16.540 align:middle line:84% Senate stands in recess until the hour 1:00 PM. 00:14:16.540 --> 00:14:23.750 align:middle line:90% 00:14:23.750 --> 00:14:24.820 align:middle line:90% Senate will be in order. 00:14:24.820 --> 00:14:27.640 align:middle line:84% One matter comes before the Senate for its final passage. 00:14:27.640 --> 00:14:29.700 align:middle line:84% And under the Constitution, there 00:14:29.700 --> 00:14:31.930 align:middle line:84% is a requirement of a call of the ayes and nays. 00:14:31.930 --> 00:14:35.560 align:middle line:84% An act authorizing the City of Cambridge to use certain land 00:14:35.560 --> 00:14:39.670 align:middle line:84% acquired for park, playground, or recreation purposes 00:14:39.670 --> 00:14:43.770 align:middle line:84% for other municipal purposes, House Bill Number 1100. 00:14:43.770 --> 00:14:45.480 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:50.380 align:middle line:90% 00:14:50.380 --> 00:14:54.300 align:middle line:90% I need another [? pencil. ?] 00:14:54.300 --> 00:15:02.140 align:middle line:90% 00:15:02.140 --> 00:15:03.120 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.130 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:15:04.130 --> 00:15:05.660 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:05.660 --> 00:15:07.090 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 00:15:07.090 --> 00:15:07.590 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:07.590 --> 00:15:08.090 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:08.090 --> 00:15:11.410 align:middle line:90% 00:15:11.410 --> 00:15:12.760 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 00:15:12.760 --> 00:15:13.260 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:15.010 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:15.010 --> 00:15:16.261 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 00:15:16.261 --> 00:15:16.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:16.760 --> 00:15:17.260 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:19.561 align:middle line:90% 00:15:19.561 --> 00:15:20.560 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 00:15:20.560 --> 00:15:21.600 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:23.410 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:23.410 --> 00:15:24.330 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 00:15:24.330 --> 00:15:31.204 align:middle line:90% 00:15:31.204 --> 00:15:33.180 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:35.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:35.730 --> 00:15:36.830 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 00:15:36.830 --> 00:15:39.450 align:middle line:90% 00:15:39.450 --> 00:15:43.020 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 00:15:43.020 --> 00:15:43.760 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:46.650 align:middle line:90% 00:15:46.650 --> 00:15:48.140 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 00:15:48.140 --> 00:15:48.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:50.990 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:15:50.990 --> 00:15:52.500 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:55.860 align:middle line:90% 00:15:55.860 --> 00:15:56.940 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 00:15:56.940 --> 00:16:00.070 align:middle line:90% 00:16:00.070 --> 00:16:01.140 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 00:16:01.140 --> 00:16:04.020 align:middle line:90% 00:16:04.020 --> 00:16:04.960 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:05.460 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:16:05.460 --> 00:16:07.030 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:16:07.030 --> 00:16:10.615 align:middle line:90% Jennifer L. Flanagan. 00:16:10.615 --> 00:16:14.000 align:middle line:90% She's not even on there. 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.100 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:19.790 align:middle line:90% 00:16:19.790 --> 00:16:22.080 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.020 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] Let's switch. 00:16:24.020 --> 00:16:24.990 align:middle line:90% Switch with me. 00:16:24.990 --> 00:16:26.874 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:16:26.874 --> 00:16:27.415 align:middle line:90% That's right. 00:16:27.415 --> 00:16:30.820 align:middle line:90% That one's right? 00:16:30.820 --> 00:16:31.810 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 00:16:31.810 --> 00:16:32.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:16:32.350 --> 00:16:34.676 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:16:34.676 --> 00:16:36.173 align:middle line:90% That's so weird. 00:16:36.173 --> 00:16:37.670 align:middle line:90% Do you have another one? 00:16:37.670 --> 00:16:44.157 align:middle line:90% 00:16:44.157 --> 00:16:47.650 align:middle line:84% So just put Friedman as [INAUDIBLE].. 00:16:47.650 --> 00:16:57.131 align:middle line:90% 00:16:57.131 --> 00:17:05.170 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:17:05.170 --> 00:17:07.789 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 00:17:07.789 --> 00:17:10.230 align:middle line:90% Gobi? 00:17:10.230 --> 00:17:10.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:10.730 --> 00:17:12.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:12.950 --> 00:17:14.951 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 00:17:14.951 --> 00:17:15.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:15.450 --> 00:17:17.800 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:19.450 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 00:17:19.450 --> 00:17:19.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:19.950 --> 00:17:21.260 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:21.260 --> 00:17:23.819 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 00:17:23.819 --> 00:17:24.319 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.810 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:26.810 --> 00:17:27.770 align:middle line:90% John F. Kennan. 00:17:27.770 --> 00:17:28.390 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:28.390 --> 00:17:30.210 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:30.210 --> 00:17:32.090 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 00:17:32.090 --> 00:17:32.590 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:32.590 --> 00:17:34.590 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:34.590 --> 00:17:35.680 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:36.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:36.510 --> 00:17:38.600 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:38.600 --> 00:17:39.740 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 00:17:39.740 --> 00:17:43.636 align:middle line:90% 00:17:43.636 --> 00:17:44.597 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:44.597 --> 00:17:45.097 align:middle line:90% Nope. 00:17:45.097 --> 00:17:45.597 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:17:45.597 --> 00:17:46.440 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:46.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:46.940 --> 00:17:48.170 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:49.640 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:50.140 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:50.140 --> 00:17:51.330 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:51.330 --> 00:17:52.780 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 00:17:52.780 --> 00:17:53.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:53.320 --> 00:17:55.380 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:55.380 --> 00:17:56.310 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 00:17:56.310 --> 00:17:56.920 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:58.460 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:00.370 align:middle line:90% Patrick M O'Connor. 00:18:00.370 --> 00:18:00.870 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:00.870 --> 00:18:02.300 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:02.300 --> 00:18:03.820 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 00:18:03.820 --> 00:18:07.990 align:middle line:90% 00:18:07.990 --> 00:18:09.120 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 00:18:09.120 --> 00:18:09.820 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:09.820 --> 00:18:11.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:11.320 --> 00:18:12.550 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 00:18:12.550 --> 00:18:13.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:14.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:14.620 --> 00:18:16.110 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 00:18:16.110 --> 00:18:16.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:16.610 --> 00:18:17.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:17.760 --> 00:18:18.860 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 00:18:18.860 --> 00:18:19.360 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:20.900 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:20.900 --> 00:18:22.056 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 00:18:22.056 --> 00:18:22.750 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:22.750 --> 00:18:24.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:25.230 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:25.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:25.730 --> 00:18:27.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:27.610 --> 00:18:28.380 align:middle line:90% Walter F Timilty. 00:18:28.380 --> 00:18:29.280 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:31.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:32.280 align:middle line:90% James T. Welch. 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:32.780 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:32.780 --> 00:18:33.900 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:18:33.900 --> 00:18:34.844 align:middle line:90% 28. 00:18:34.844 --> 00:18:36.470 align:middle line:84% If all members have been recorded, 00:18:36.470 --> 00:18:38.125 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] recognizes the Senator 00:18:38.125 --> 00:18:40.254 align:middle line:84% from Essex and Middlesex, [INAUDIBLE].. 00:18:40.254 --> 00:18:42.146 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, have I been recorded? 00:18:42.146 --> 00:18:43.092 align:middle line:90% You have not. 00:18:43.092 --> 00:18:44.990 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] recorded as yes. 00:18:44.990 --> 00:18:46.980 align:middle line:90% Barbara L'Italien votes yes. 00:18:46.980 --> 00:18:49.872 align:middle line:90% 00:18:49.872 --> 00:18:57.110 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Middlesex and Worcester, [INAUDIBLE].. 00:18:57.110 --> 00:18:58.440 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 00:18:58.440 --> 00:18:58.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:58.940 --> 00:18:59.537 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:18:59.537 --> 00:19:03.830 align:middle line:84% Senator from Middlesex [INAUDIBLE].. 00:19:03.830 --> 00:19:05.750 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, have I been recorded? 00:19:05.750 --> 00:19:07.869 align:middle line:90% You have not. 00:19:07.869 --> 00:19:10.340 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:19:10.340 --> 00:19:13.188 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donahue votes yes. 00:19:13.188 --> 00:19:17.544 align:middle line:84% Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Miss [INAUDIBLE].. 00:19:17.544 --> 00:19:21.420 align:middle line:84% Yes, Mr. President, [INAUDIBLE] recorded [INAUDIBLE].. 00:19:21.420 --> 00:19:23.717 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem votes yes. 00:19:23.717 --> 00:19:26.519 align:middle line:84% Senator from Worcester Ms. Chandler. 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:28.390 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, have I been recorded? 00:19:28.390 --> 00:19:29.772 align:middle line:90% You have. 00:19:29.772 --> 00:19:33.740 align:middle line:84% Senator from Suffolk, Ms. Chang-Diaz. 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:36.720 align:middle line:84% Mr. President [INAUDIBLE] recorded [INAUDIBLE].. 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.190 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz votes yes. 00:19:39.190 --> 00:19:45.430 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Plymouth and Norfolk, Ms. O'Connor Ives. 00:19:45.430 --> 00:19:48.800 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, [INAUDIBLE] recorded [INAUDIBLE].. 00:19:48.800 --> 00:19:50.650 align:middle line:84% Kathleen O'Connor Ives votes yes. 00:19:50.650 --> 00:19:53.600 align:middle line:90% 00:19:53.600 --> 00:19:56.628 align:middle line:90% Cyr and Forry, right? 00:19:56.628 --> 00:19:59.926 align:middle line:90% Cyr, Forry, DiDomenico. 00:19:59.926 --> 00:20:01.878 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:20:01.878 --> 00:20:04.318 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:20:04.318 --> 00:20:14.570 align:middle line:90% 00:20:14.570 --> 00:20:16.369 align:middle line:90% Shall N. DiDomenico. 00:20:16.369 --> 00:20:19.363 align:middle line:90% 00:20:19.363 --> 00:20:21.359 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.353 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:20:24.353 --> 00:25:10.779 align:middle line:90% 00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:13.210 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:16.508 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr votes yes. 00:25:16.508 --> 00:25:19.484 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:25:19.484 --> 00:25:24.450 align:middle line:90% 00:25:24.450 --> 00:25:27.040 align:middle line:84% On this matter 36 having voted in the affirmative, 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:29.539 align:middle line:84% none in the negative, the bill is passed to be enacted, 00:25:29.539 --> 00:25:31.830 align:middle line:84% will be signed by Mr President, lay before the Governor 00:25:31.830 --> 00:25:33.675 align:middle line:90% for his approbation. 00:25:33.675 --> 00:25:37.305 align:middle line:84% One matter comes before the Senate for its final passage, 00:25:37.305 --> 00:25:39.180 align:middle line:84% an act amending the charter of the city known 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:43.200 align:middle line:84% as the Town of Barnstable, House Bill Number 3706. 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.780 align:middle line:84% The question comes on passing the bill to be enacted. 00:25:45.780 --> 00:25:48.760 align:middle line:84% All those in favor, say aye, opposed, no. 00:25:48.760 --> 00:25:51.450 align:middle line:84% The ayes have it, and the bill is passed to be enacted. 00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:57.330 align:middle line:90% The-- what is this? 00:25:57.330 --> 00:26:00.220 align:middle line:84% The Chair would respectfully ask members-- 00:26:00.220 --> 00:26:02.787 align:middle line:90% 00:26:02.787 --> 00:26:04.870 align:middle line:84% the Chair would respectfully ask members to please 00:26:04.870 --> 00:26:06.940 align:middle line:90% subdue their conversations. 00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:11.710 align:middle line:84% It's extremely difficult for the Clerk to hear the votes 00:26:11.710 --> 00:26:13.610 align:middle line:84% while we're going through roll calls. 00:26:13.610 --> 00:26:16.030 align:middle line:84% And as you know, the rest of this afternoon 00:26:16.030 --> 00:26:20.260 align:middle line:84% will be virtually all veto overrides, 00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:22.270 align:middle line:90% and therefore roll calls. 00:26:22.270 --> 00:26:25.570 align:middle line:84% So we're asking you to please be in your seats. 00:26:25.570 --> 00:26:27.220 align:middle line:90% Do not leave the chamber. 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:30.100 align:middle line:84% Because we're not going to be able to wait in order 00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:32.890 align:middle line:84% for people to come back and forth, because we 00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:35.200 align:middle line:90% have many items to consider. 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.480 align:middle line:84% And we can now practice this, because one matter 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.712 align:middle line:84% comes before the Senate for its final passage. 00:26:39.712 --> 00:26:41.170 align:middle line:84% And under the Constitution, there's 00:26:41.170 --> 00:26:43.260 align:middle line:84% a requirement of a call of the ayes and nays, 00:26:43.260 --> 00:26:45.310 align:middle line:84% an act authorizing the Town of Lincoln 00:26:45.310 --> 00:26:48.460 align:middle line:84% to exchange certain landfill property for conservation land 00:26:48.460 --> 00:26:50.500 align:middle line:90% House Bill Number 3692. 00:26:50.500 --> 00:26:53.905 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 00:26:53.905 --> 00:26:57.785 align:middle line:90% 3692. 00:26:57.785 --> 00:27:00.195 align:middle line:90% 93. 00:27:00.195 --> 00:27:00.695 align:middle line:90% 19. 00:27:00.695 --> 00:27:07.510 align:middle line:90% 00:27:07.510 --> 00:27:08.490 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 00:27:08.490 --> 00:27:09.211 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:09.211 --> 00:27:09.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:09.710 --> 00:27:12.420 align:middle line:90% 00:27:12.420 --> 00:27:13.660 align:middle line:90% Joseph A Boncore. 00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:14.500 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:14.500 --> 00:27:16.690 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:16.690 --> 00:27:17.760 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:18.420 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:21.190 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:22.550 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 00:27:22.550 --> 00:27:24.270 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:27:24.270 --> 00:27:25.520 align:middle line:90% No. 00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:26.440 align:middle line:90% He said no? 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.280 align:middle line:90% Yes, he said yes. 00:27:28.280 --> 00:27:29.200 align:middle line:90% He said yes. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.120 align:middle line:90% He said yes. 00:27:30.120 --> 00:27:32.880 align:middle line:84% William N. Brownsberger votes yes. 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:33.860 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 00:27:33.860 --> 00:27:34.360 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:34.360 --> 00:27:36.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:36.060 --> 00:27:37.310 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 00:27:37.310 --> 00:27:37.840 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:37.840 --> 00:27:39.430 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:39.430 --> 00:27:40.551 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 00:27:40.551 --> 00:27:41.050 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:41.050 --> 00:27:42.520 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:42.520 --> 00:27:43.280 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 00:27:43.280 --> 00:27:43.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:43.790 --> 00:27:45.330 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:45.330 --> 00:27:46.760 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 00:27:46.760 --> 00:27:47.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:47.320 --> 00:27:48.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:48.760 --> 00:27:49.920 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:50.670 --> 00:27:52.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:53.170 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:53.775 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:53.775 --> 00:27:55.140 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:56.520 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 00:27:56.520 --> 00:27:57.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:57.020 --> 00:27:58.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:27:58.060 --> 00:27:59.246 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 00:27:59.246 --> 00:28:00.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:00.060 --> 00:28:01.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:01.350 --> 00:28:04.360 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 00:28:04.360 --> 00:28:05.400 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:06.180 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:07.380 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:08.263 align:middle line:90% And M. Gobi. 00:28:08.263 --> 00:28:09.030 align:middle line:90% Yes, of course. 00:28:09.030 --> 00:28:10.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.806 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 00:28:11.806 --> 00:28:12.560 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:12.560 --> 00:28:14.070 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:14.070 --> 00:28:15.381 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 00:28:15.381 --> 00:28:15.880 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:17.460 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:17.460 --> 00:28:18.816 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 00:28:18.816 --> 00:28:19.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:21.600 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:22.560 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:23.120 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:23.120 --> 00:28:24.691 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:24.691 --> 00:28:25.711 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 00:28:25.711 --> 00:28:26.210 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:26.210 --> 00:28:27.780 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:27.780 --> 00:28:29.040 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 00:28:29.040 --> 00:28:29.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:29.540 --> 00:28:30.960 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.130 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:32.860 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:32.860 --> 00:28:34.380 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:35.410 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 00:28:35.410 --> 00:28:36.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:37.470 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:37.470 --> 00:28:39.010 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 00:28:39.010 --> 00:28:39.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:39.510 --> 00:28:40.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:40.710 --> 00:28:42.400 align:middle line:90% Mark C Montigny. 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:42.900 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:44.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:45.981 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 00:28:45.981 --> 00:28:46.480 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:48.060 --> 00:28:49.150 align:middle line:90% Patrick M O'Connor. 00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:50.170 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:51.330 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:51.330 --> 00:28:52.950 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 00:28:52.950 --> 00:28:53.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:53.450 --> 00:28:54.960 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.511 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 00:28:56.511 --> 00:28:57.010 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:57.010 --> 00:28:58.560 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:28:58.560 --> 00:28:59.780 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 00:28:59.780 --> 00:29:00.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:00.340 --> 00:29:02.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:02.130 --> 00:29:03.300 align:middle line:90% Richard J Ross. 00:29:03.300 --> 00:29:03.960 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.490 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:05.490 --> 00:29:06.790 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 00:29:06.790 --> 00:29:07.290 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:07.290 --> 00:29:08.870 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:08.870 --> 00:29:10.080 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:11.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:11.100 --> 00:29:12.356 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:12.356 --> 00:29:13.600 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr 00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:14.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:14.100 --> 00:29:15.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.766 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 00:29:16.766 --> 00:29:17.266 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:17.266 --> 00:29:18.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:20.270 align:middle line:90% James T. Welch. 00:29:20.270 --> 00:29:20.770 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:20.770 --> 00:29:21.646 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:21.646 --> 00:29:23.400 align:middle line:90% Have all members been recorded? 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:24.176 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:29:24.176 --> 00:29:27.578 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:29:27.578 --> 00:29:34.890 align:middle line:90% 00:29:34.890 --> 00:29:37.450 align:middle line:84% On this matter 36 having voted in the affirmative, 00:29:37.450 --> 00:29:39.801 align:middle line:84% none in the negative, the bill has passed to be enacted, 00:29:39.801 --> 00:29:42.300 align:middle line:84% will be signed by the President and laid before the Governor 00:29:42.300 --> 00:29:43.740 align:middle line:90% for his approbation. 00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:46.740 align:middle line:84% It is now my pleasure to call upon the Minority 00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:50.970 align:middle line:84% Leader, the Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr for a very, very 00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:53.940 align:middle line:84% special presentation which you will all 00:29:53.940 --> 00:29:56.790 align:middle line:90% want to pay attention to. 00:29:56.790 --> 00:30:00.870 align:middle line:84% Because it truly is, Senator Pacheco, a very, very special 00:30:00.870 --> 00:30:04.860 align:middle line:84% presentation by the Minority Leader. 00:30:04.860 --> 00:30:07.290 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through you to the members. 00:30:07.290 --> 00:30:09.540 align:middle line:84% It's wonderful to be gathered back with you today 00:30:09.540 --> 00:30:12.775 align:middle line:84% as we begin the resumption of formal sessions for the fall. 00:30:12.775 --> 00:30:16.320 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, we begin anew some traditions. 00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:18.240 align:middle line:84% It's wonderful to have you on the rostrum. 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.190 align:middle line:90% You have a wonderful purple tie. 00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:22.260 align:middle line:84% And as we think about those traditions, 00:30:22.260 --> 00:30:24.390 align:middle line:84% it's important to think about one that we 00:30:24.390 --> 00:30:26.700 align:middle line:90% have had to revisit of late. 00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:30.300 align:middle line:84% And that is the symbol that must be in our chamber 00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:32.100 align:middle line:90% during legislative debate. 00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:33.840 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, we may all recall 00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:37.320 align:middle line:84% that when we first relocated to this satellite chamber, 00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:40.050 align:middle line:84% it was duly noted that there was an absence 00:30:40.050 --> 00:30:43.500 align:middle line:84% of one particular codfish in the chamber, which 00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:47.040 align:middle line:84% is a requisite element of a legislative chamber 00:30:47.040 --> 00:30:48.510 align:middle line:90% here at the State House. 00:30:48.510 --> 00:30:52.110 align:middle line:84% And many members may recall that Senator Lovely 00:30:52.110 --> 00:30:57.240 align:middle line:84% came to our rescue with the fish that is now above the rostrum. 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.210 align:middle line:84% But Mr. President, we all know that we truly 00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:04.320 align:middle line:84% need to have the genuine article in the form of a codfish. 00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:06.300 align:middle line:84% And so it was, Mr. President, that I put out 00:31:06.300 --> 00:31:08.940 align:middle line:84% the call to the Cape Ann Chamber of Commerce. 00:31:08.940 --> 00:31:12.810 align:middle line:84% And they searched far and wide for the appropriate artist 00:31:12.810 --> 00:31:15.480 align:middle line:84% to be able to produce for us a codfish that 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.350 align:middle line:84% could remain in this satellite chamber and be, 00:31:19.350 --> 00:31:23.250 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, a due extension of the tradition 00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:25.895 align:middle line:84% that has lasted in the Chamber for so long. 00:31:25.895 --> 00:31:28.020 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, if the members would indulge me, 00:31:28.020 --> 00:31:31.890 align:middle line:84% I would just point out that the first sacred cod believed 00:31:31.890 --> 00:31:34.470 align:middle line:84% to be actually the third iteration of it 00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:39.360 align:middle line:84% was originally installed at the old State House in 1784. 00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:42.780 align:middle line:84% In 1798, it was moved to the new State House in what we all 00:31:42.780 --> 00:31:45.450 align:middle line:84% know was originally the House Chamber, and then later 00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:46.830 align:middle line:90% our Chamber. 00:31:46.830 --> 00:31:49.410 align:middle line:84% And then in 1895, on the last day 00:31:49.410 --> 00:31:53.400 align:middle line:84% the House was in the now Senate Chamber, 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:58.290 align:middle line:84% the sacred cod was relocated to the new House Chambers. 00:31:58.290 --> 00:32:00.180 align:middle line:84% But of course, Mr. President, the Senate 00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:01.860 align:middle line:90% was not to be outdone. 00:32:01.860 --> 00:32:06.510 align:middle line:84% So we incorporated a cod into our wrought iron chandelier. 00:32:06.510 --> 00:32:09.480 align:middle line:84% And so to be a little bit different from the House, 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.630 align:middle line:84% we identify ours as the Holy Mackerel. 00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:15.750 align:middle line:84% Now, Mr. President, we all know that the sacred cod 00:32:15.750 --> 00:32:19.020 align:middle line:84% has remained in its position of prominence in the House 00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:23.580 align:middle line:84% with the exception of a brief time in 1933 00:32:23.580 --> 00:32:28.560 align:middle line:84% when it was stolen by the members of the Harvard Lampoon. 00:32:28.560 --> 00:32:31.290 align:middle line:84% That was referred to as a cod-napping. 00:32:31.290 --> 00:32:34.290 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, it caused such a shock 00:32:34.290 --> 00:32:35.880 align:middle line:84% that some legislators felt it would 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.400 align:middle line:84% be sacrilegious to transact business 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.570 align:middle line:90% in the absence of a cod. 00:32:40.570 --> 00:32:43.320 align:middle line:84% State detectives were called to the scene. 00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:46.440 align:middle line:84% And law enforcement efforts even went so far as 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:51.690 align:middle line:84% to drag the Charles River to try to find the missing cod. 00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:53.520 align:middle line:84% Well, fortunately, Mr. President, 00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:56.400 align:middle line:84% we had a tremendous response from the Cape Ann 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:57.900 align:middle line:90% Chamber of Commerce. 00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:00.570 align:middle line:84% And two artists are with us today. 00:33:00.570 --> 00:33:03.600 align:middle line:84% And I'd ask them to join us on the rostrum, 00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:08.700 align:middle line:84% because they have created for us a new sacred cod that we can 00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:11.490 align:middle line:84% place here in our legislative chamber, 00:33:11.490 --> 00:33:13.920 align:middle line:84% so that we can carry on this most important 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.530 align:middle line:84% of legislative traditions here at the State House. 00:33:16.530 --> 00:33:20.624 align:middle line:84% And Senator Montigny, I know, also recognizes 00:33:20.624 --> 00:33:21.915 align:middle line:90% the importance of this codfish. 00:33:21.915 --> 00:33:24.409 align:middle line:84% And Senator, if you would like to join us here 00:33:24.409 --> 00:33:25.950 align:middle line:84% on the rostrum for this presentation, 00:33:25.950 --> 00:33:29.425 align:middle line:90% you would be most welcome. 00:33:29.425 --> 00:33:31.317 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:33:31.317 --> 00:33:32.571 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:33:32.571 --> 00:33:33.070 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:33:33.070 --> 00:33:35.812 align:middle line:90% 00:33:35.812 --> 00:33:36.520 align:middle line:90% What do you need? 00:33:36.520 --> 00:33:36.880 align:middle line:90% What? 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:37.310 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:33:37.310 --> 00:33:37.790 align:middle line:90% Go up there? 00:33:37.790 --> 00:33:38.290 align:middle line:90% Yup. 00:33:38.290 --> 00:33:39.230 align:middle line:90% Go right up there. 00:33:39.230 --> 00:33:40.280 align:middle line:84% And you could present that to the-- 00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:41.500 align:middle line:90% And then present it to me. 00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:42.340 align:middle line:90% Oh, OK. 00:33:42.340 --> 00:33:43.456 align:middle line:90% Unfold it. 00:33:43.456 --> 00:33:43.955 align:middle line:90% Unfold it. 00:33:43.955 --> 00:33:44.350 align:middle line:90% Unwrap it. 00:33:44.350 --> 00:33:44.850 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:33:44.850 --> 00:33:46.870 align:middle line:84% Well, it's a great honor for us to do that. 00:33:46.870 --> 00:33:47.960 align:middle line:90% I can tell you that. 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.220 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:50.844 align:middle line:90% So-- 00:33:50.844 --> 00:33:52.338 align:middle line:90% So why don't you hold it? 00:33:52.338 --> 00:33:53.334 align:middle line:90% You guys hold it. 00:33:53.334 --> 00:33:54.330 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:33:54.330 --> 00:33:55.824 align:middle line:90% Senator Montigny. 00:33:55.824 --> 00:33:57.318 align:middle line:90% Well, I look like the short man. 00:33:57.318 --> 00:34:01.302 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:34:01.302 --> 00:34:06.780 align:middle line:90% 00:34:06.780 --> 00:34:12.790 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:34:12.790 --> 00:34:14.750 align:middle line:84% Introduce for the edification of the members, 00:34:14.750 --> 00:34:18.409 align:middle line:84% Robert Bliss from Gloucester who crafted this sacred codfish. 00:34:18.409 --> 00:34:21.512 align:middle line:84% And I'd ask us all to give him another round of applause. 00:34:21.512 --> 00:34:25.448 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:34:25.448 --> 00:34:29.880 align:middle line:90% 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.699 align:middle line:84% And also, we have Ken Riehl from the Cape Ann 00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:38.177 align:middle line:84% Chamber of Commerce who has a gift, Mr. President, for you. 00:34:38.177 --> 00:34:38.760 align:middle line:90% Mr. President. 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:40.803 align:middle line:84% I'd like to present to you from the Cape Ann 00:34:40.803 --> 00:34:42.719 align:middle line:84% Chamber of Commerce and the City of Gloucester 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.989 align:middle line:84% and all the residents of Cape Ann, a symbol 00:34:45.989 --> 00:34:50.090 align:middle line:84% that we are very proud of, a new Gloucester T-shirt 00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:51.810 align:middle line:90% and a new Gloucester symbol. 00:34:51.810 --> 00:34:53.409 align:middle line:84% We're very happy to be here today. 00:34:53.409 --> 00:34:53.880 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:54.870 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:34:54.870 --> 00:34:55.860 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:34:55.860 --> 00:35:03.300 align:middle line:90% [APPLAUSE] 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:05.840 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] size extra small. 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.836 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHTER] 00:35:07.836 --> 00:37:12.087 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:37:12.087 --> 00:37:17.490 align:middle line:84% --recognizes is the Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, 00:37:17.490 --> 00:37:22.400 align:middle line:84% Ms. Spilka for remarks with regard to the matters 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.505 align:middle line:84% pending before us for the remainder of today's session. 00:37:25.505 --> 00:37:28.650 align:middle line:90% 00:37:28.650 --> 00:37:30.380 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:36.280 align:middle line:84% I am informing the members that today we will be beginning-- 00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.270 align:middle line:90% well, starting the process-- 00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:40.370 align:middle line:84% of addressing some of the Governor's 00:37:40.370 --> 00:37:44.870 align:middle line:84% actions on the fiscal year 2018 budget, the Conference 00:37:44.870 --> 00:37:46.850 align:middle line:90% Committee budget. 00:37:46.850 --> 00:37:50.510 align:middle line:84% During the conference process, if you remember, 00:37:50.510 --> 00:37:54.890 align:middle line:84% the House and Senate were tasked with addressing 00:37:54.890 --> 00:37:58.430 align:middle line:84% another difficult revenue shortfall. 00:37:58.430 --> 00:38:01.700 align:middle line:84% We worked very closely with the House 00:38:01.700 --> 00:38:06.230 align:middle line:84% and ended up cutting hundreds of billions of dollars 00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:10.210 align:middle line:84% from the budget, over $700 million. 00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:14.840 align:middle line:84% And this was after the administration had notified us 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.110 align:middle line:84% that they believed that the shortfall was somewhere 00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:23.000 align:middle line:90% between $400 and $900 million. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:30.140 align:middle line:84% We cut over $700 million, which was very challenging. 00:38:30.140 --> 00:38:33.530 align:middle line:84% And it left some of our top priorities 00:38:33.530 --> 00:38:37.580 align:middle line:84% reduced or even left them on the floor. 00:38:37.580 --> 00:38:40.340 align:middle line:90% They were cut totally. 00:38:40.340 --> 00:38:44.450 align:middle line:84% But we made the necessary tough decisions 00:38:44.450 --> 00:38:48.110 align:middle line:90% to produce a balanced budget. 00:38:48.110 --> 00:38:52.160 align:middle line:84% We submitted that balanced budget to the Governor. 00:38:52.160 --> 00:38:58.910 align:middle line:84% And the Governor submitted back additional cuts 00:38:58.910 --> 00:39:03.650 align:middle line:84% that will only serve to limit and, in some ways, some 00:39:03.650 --> 00:39:08.600 align:middle line:84% of the cases, totally eliminate valuable services 00:39:08.600 --> 00:39:11.210 align:middle line:90% across the Commonwealth. 00:39:11.210 --> 00:39:14.810 align:middle line:84% So these items that we intend to take up today 00:39:14.810 --> 00:39:18.980 align:middle line:84% are pretty much state-wide in scope. 00:39:18.980 --> 00:39:21.830 align:middle line:84% And we have taken careful consideration 00:39:21.830 --> 00:39:27.560 align:middle line:84% of those programs that have also been a priority of all of you 00:39:27.560 --> 00:39:30.320 align:middle line:90% in the Senate Chamber. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.230 align:middle line:84% By the close of today's session, we 00:39:33.230 --> 00:39:40.670 align:middle line:84% aim to act on approximately 60 line items, line item vetoes, 00:39:40.670 --> 00:39:45.955 align:middle line:84% totaling a little over $60 million. 00:39:45.955 --> 00:39:49.670 align:middle line:84% Overall, to refresh your memory, the Governor 00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:56.040 align:middle line:84% vetoed $320 million, $320.6 million 00:39:56.040 --> 00:40:00.410 align:middle line:84% to be exact, from the Conference Committee budget, 00:40:00.410 --> 00:40:06.140 align:middle line:84% impacting a total of 169 line items. 00:40:06.140 --> 00:40:09.440 align:middle line:84% These cuts spanned across our priorities 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.150 align:middle line:90% from adult basic education to-- 00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:16.160 align:middle line:84% we tried to eliminate, once again 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:21.450 align:middle line:84% this year, the waiting list for pediatric palliative care, 00:40:21.450 --> 00:40:25.880 align:middle line:84% so we don't have to tell terminally ill children you 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:28.040 align:middle line:90% have to wait till next year. 00:40:28.040 --> 00:40:31.530 align:middle line:84% Some of them may not have a next year-- 00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:35.690 align:middle line:84% to recovery high schools, which has been a Senate initiative, 00:40:35.690 --> 00:40:38.350 align:middle line:90% important initiative. 00:40:38.350 --> 00:40:40.580 align:middle line:84% We in Ways and Means have been closely 00:40:40.580 --> 00:40:45.500 align:middle line:84% monitoring the fiscal year '18 revenue, which 00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:49.940 align:middle line:84% to date has remained relatively stable compared 00:40:49.940 --> 00:40:52.520 align:middle line:90% to our benchmark. 00:40:52.520 --> 00:40:55.670 align:middle line:84% Through the end of August, we were slightly 00:40:55.670 --> 00:41:01.250 align:middle line:84% below, only slightly below, the year to date revenue benchmark. 00:41:01.250 --> 00:41:03.380 align:middle line:90% by $11 million. 00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:06.890 align:middle line:84% And if you remember, this is a $40 billion 00:41:06.890 --> 00:41:12.450 align:middle line:84% budget, so $11 million is not much. 00:41:12.450 --> 00:41:16.250 align:middle line:84% However, our September mid-month collection 00:41:16.250 --> 00:41:19.970 align:middle line:90% surpassed expectations. 00:41:19.970 --> 00:41:24.470 align:middle line:84% Through September 15th, our monthly collections 00:41:24.470 --> 00:41:34.310 align:middle line:84% are $181 million or 13.9% higher than through the same period 00:41:34.310 --> 00:41:38.660 align:middle line:90% in fiscal year 2017. 00:41:38.660 --> 00:41:43.250 align:middle line:84% So while I admit that this is simply a mid-month report, 00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:48.110 align:middle line:84% I remain confident that our Conference Committee budget 00:41:48.110 --> 00:41:51.920 align:middle line:90% did produce a balanced budget. 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:56.690 align:middle line:84% And I am optimistically awaiting a strong full month report 00:41:56.690 --> 00:42:01.610 align:middle line:84% for September, which is one of the largest 00:42:01.610 --> 00:42:03.860 align:middle line:90% month for collections. 00:42:03.860 --> 00:42:08.150 align:middle line:84% I, therefore, urge you to override these vetoes 00:42:08.150 --> 00:42:12.560 align:middle line:84% and restore the funding that the legislature provided 00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:14.930 align:middle line:84% for our communities and residents 00:42:14.930 --> 00:42:16.730 align:middle line:90% across the Commonwealth. 00:42:16.730 --> 00:42:17.270 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:42:17.270 --> 00:42:20.060 align:middle line:90% 00:42:20.060 --> 00:42:21.928 align:middle line:90% A brief recess. 00:42:21.928 --> 00:42:34.160 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:35.160 align:middle line:90% Senate will be in order. 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:38.319 align:middle line:84% The Chair recognizes the Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 00:42:38.319 --> 00:42:40.860 align:middle line:84% Why, thank you, Mr. President and through you to the members. 00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:42.276 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I want to make sure 00:42:42.276 --> 00:42:45.450 align:middle line:84% that we all understand that which presently pends 00:42:45.450 --> 00:42:48.780 align:middle line:84% before the Senate, which are a series of overrides 00:42:48.780 --> 00:42:53.130 align:middle line:84% of gubernatorial vetoes which, if adopted, Mr. President, 00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:57.520 align:middle line:84% will add significant sums of money back into the fiscal year 00:42:57.520 --> 00:42:58.650 align:middle line:90% 2018. 00:42:58.650 --> 00:42:59.430 align:middle line:90% budget. 00:42:59.430 --> 00:43:01.020 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I would first like 00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:03.540 align:middle line:84% to ask the distinguished Chairlady of Ways and Means 00:43:03.540 --> 00:43:06.660 align:middle line:84% who has so expertly, Mr. President, 00:43:06.660 --> 00:43:09.330 align:middle line:84% not only worked to produce that budget, 00:43:09.330 --> 00:43:12.720 align:middle line:84% but also analyzed the current situation and the context 00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:16.530 align:middle line:84% in which we may consider these vetoes, Mr. President, what 00:43:16.530 --> 00:43:20.580 align:middle line:84% the current state of balance is of the budget 00:43:20.580 --> 00:43:21.930 align:middle line:90% in this fiscal year? 00:43:21.930 --> 00:43:23.760 align:middle line:90% Are we in deficit? 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:27.270 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I know that she has indicated that the August 00:43:27.270 --> 00:43:30.540 align:middle line:84% revenue numbers pointed us to the direction of being 00:43:30.540 --> 00:43:35.190 align:middle line:84% approximately $11 million below benchmark, which would seem 00:43:35.190 --> 00:43:37.680 align:middle line:84% to indicate Mr. President, that the budget is currently 00:43:37.680 --> 00:43:41.070 align:middle line:84% out of balance if the revenue benchmark that 00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:43.950 align:middle line:84% was used on which to base the budget 00:43:43.950 --> 00:43:47.910 align:middle line:84% has now been underperformed by actual revenues. 00:43:47.910 --> 00:43:51.900 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, my first question is, with regard 00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:56.880 align:middle line:84% to where we stand year to date, is the budget in balance? 00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:01.680 align:middle line:84% And to what degree has revenue met the benchmark that 00:44:01.680 --> 00:44:04.510 align:middle line:84% was utilized to develop the final General Appropriations 00:44:04.510 --> 00:44:05.010 align:middle line:90% Act? 00:44:05.010 --> 00:44:06.240 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:09.000 align:middle line:84% Senator from Norfolk-- excuse me, 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.520 align:middle line:84% Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka. 00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:12.930 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. [AUDIO OUT]. 00:44:12.930 --> 00:44:17.130 align:middle line:84% And I thank the gentleman from Gloucester, the Minority Leader 00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:18.660 align:middle line:90% for his question. 00:44:18.660 --> 00:44:21.330 align:middle line:84% I thought I was clear, but evidently I wasn't. 00:44:21.330 --> 00:44:27.390 align:middle line:84% So I will just reiterate that August we were $11 million 00:44:27.390 --> 00:44:30.240 align:middle line:84% below benchmark, by the end of August. 00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:33.390 align:middle line:84% By the middle of September, September alone 00:44:33.390 --> 00:44:38.770 align:middle line:84% was $181 million above benchmark. 00:44:38.770 --> 00:44:42.210 align:middle line:84% So you subtract the $11 million we were below 00:44:42.210 --> 00:44:47.190 align:middle line:84% by the end of August, that brings us to $170 million 00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:49.440 align:middle line:90% above benchmark. 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.040 align:middle line:84% So if we do $60 million, I believe 00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:59.064 align:middle line:84% that that will still keep us well within a balanced budget. 00:44:59.064 --> 00:45:01.009 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] Essex, Mr. Tarr. 00:45:01.009 --> 00:45:02.050 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:45:02.050 --> 00:45:05.020 align:middle line:84% And I do appreciate the clarification. 00:45:05.020 --> 00:45:07.960 align:middle line:84% Because my concern, Mr. President, 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.810 align:middle line:84% is how we've been trending throughout the current fiscal 00:45:10.810 --> 00:45:13.660 align:middle line:90% year relative to that benchmark. 00:45:13.660 --> 00:45:16.600 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, it's my understanding 00:45:16.600 --> 00:45:20.830 align:middle line:84% that the month of September is consistently in the top four 00:45:20.830 --> 00:45:24.310 align:middle line:84% in terms of months that produce revenue. 00:45:24.310 --> 00:45:27.820 align:middle line:84% And so while I understand that we have mid-month projections 00:45:27.820 --> 00:45:31.330 align:middle line:84% that seem extremely rosy, Mr. President, 00:45:31.330 --> 00:45:37.440 align:middle line:84% I would ask that or pose the question as to why we would 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:42.270 align:middle line:84% consider taking up any matters of this much impact 00:45:42.270 --> 00:45:47.100 align:middle line:84% on the fiscal year 2018 budget when we are days away from 00:45:47.100 --> 00:45:52.454 align:middle line:84% final numbers for the fiscal year 2018 for the month 00:45:52.454 --> 00:45:53.370 align:middle line:90% of September, rather-- 00:45:53.370 --> 00:45:54.860 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry, Mr. President. 00:45:54.860 --> 00:45:59.820 align:middle line:84% We are days away from having the actual numbers for revenue 00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:01.380 align:middle line:90% for September. 00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:03.050 align:middle line:84% Now, I know that, obviously, there 00:46:03.050 --> 00:46:06.460 align:middle line:84% is some exuberance relative to those mid-month numbers. 00:46:06.460 --> 00:46:09.480 align:middle line:84% But as we've often seen, the mid-month numbers 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.150 align:middle line:84% are not always an accurate predictor 00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:14.700 align:middle line:84% of what the month will actually generate. 00:46:14.700 --> 00:46:17.410 align:middle line:84% So as we are here in the chamber today 00:46:17.410 --> 00:46:20.170 align:middle line:84% and as September is drawing to a close 00:46:20.170 --> 00:46:23.220 align:middle line:84% and we are days away from actually knowing 00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:26.340 align:middle line:84% what one of the top four months in producing revenue 00:46:26.340 --> 00:46:31.560 align:middle line:84% will yield, why, Mr. President, is the recommendation 00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:33.690 align:middle line:84% of the gentlelady from the Committee on Ways 00:46:33.690 --> 00:46:36.270 align:middle line:90% and Means that we act now? 00:46:36.270 --> 00:46:38.340 align:middle line:84% Particularly, given the fact, Mr. President, 00:46:38.340 --> 00:46:40.260 align:middle line:84% that there is no suggestion, nor do I 00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:44.250 align:middle line:84% think the possibility, of any of these items actually becoming 00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:47.370 align:middle line:84% deficient if we fail to override the veto. 00:46:47.370 --> 00:46:50.280 align:middle line:84% We're still very early on in the fiscal year. 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:54.390 align:middle line:84% And so I'm wondering, Mr. President, what the urgency 00:46:54.390 --> 00:46:57.120 align:middle line:84% is when, particularly, we have spent 00:46:57.120 --> 00:46:59.070 align:middle line:84% so much time in this chamber talking 00:46:59.070 --> 00:47:01.410 align:middle line:84% about how we'd like to do things based 00:47:01.410 --> 00:47:06.300 align:middle line:84% on evidence and facts and verifiable information. 00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:11.590 align:middle line:84% And all of those things will be available in just a few days. 00:47:11.590 --> 00:47:15.600 align:middle line:84% And yet, we are here in a very volatile revenue situation, 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:22.290 align:middle line:84% which necessitated the downward reduction in the budget 00:47:22.290 --> 00:47:23.940 align:middle line:84% by a substantial amount of money, 00:47:23.940 --> 00:47:26.970 align:middle line:84% which the gentlelady did a tremendous job with of trying 00:47:26.970 --> 00:47:30.210 align:middle line:84% to respond to that change in circumstances. 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:33.150 align:middle line:84% In that volatile revenue situation, 00:47:33.150 --> 00:47:35.220 align:middle line:84% days away from having information 00:47:35.220 --> 00:47:40.260 align:middle line:84% on one of the most important revenue months in the year, why 00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:42.840 align:middle line:84% we would consider these overrides 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.880 align:middle line:84% at this particular point in time? 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:46.590 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:47:46.590 --> 00:47:49.680 align:middle line:84% Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka. 00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:50.970 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:47:50.970 --> 00:47:55.530 align:middle line:84% I would believe that the best answer to that gentleman's 00:47:55.530 --> 00:47:59.040 align:middle line:84% questions are the House and Senate still 00:47:59.040 --> 00:48:03.450 align:middle line:84% believe that we are within our balanced budget 00:48:03.450 --> 00:48:06.180 align:middle line:84% that we submitted to the Governor. 00:48:06.180 --> 00:48:09.780 align:middle line:84% And this shouldn't be a method of accounting 00:48:09.780 --> 00:48:14.310 align:middle line:84% of cutting in anticipation of shortfalls or whatever 00:48:14.310 --> 00:48:19.410 align:middle line:84% that don't actually appear to be reality yet. 00:48:19.410 --> 00:48:23.970 align:middle line:84% So that when we submitted the budget to the administration, 00:48:23.970 --> 00:48:26.430 align:middle line:90% it was a balanced budget. 00:48:26.430 --> 00:48:28.290 align:middle line:90% And that budget should stand. 00:48:28.290 --> 00:48:30.660 align:middle line:84% Those are the priorities of the House 00:48:30.660 --> 00:48:33.780 align:middle line:84% and the Senate that pretty much all of the members 00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:35.610 align:middle line:90% voted to support. 00:48:35.610 --> 00:48:38.550 align:middle line:84% And that's what our budget should be-- 00:48:38.550 --> 00:48:42.840 align:middle line:84% that we are balanced, we have the funding as of now. 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:48.090 align:middle line:84% And that many of these programs, if they are not restored 00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:51.540 align:middle line:84% and weeks go by, it takes longer and longer, 00:48:51.540 --> 00:48:55.020 align:middle line:84% it's harder and harder, for the programs to either gear 00:48:55.020 --> 00:48:57.240 align:middle line:90% up or gain momentum. 00:48:57.240 --> 00:49:00.120 align:middle line:84% Or they're turning people away, or they end up 00:49:00.120 --> 00:49:04.740 align:middle line:84% just not happening once more, because of being vetoed. 00:49:04.740 --> 00:49:07.500 align:middle line:90% 00:49:07.500 --> 00:49:09.229 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 00:49:09.229 --> 00:49:10.270 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:49:10.270 --> 00:49:12.090 align:middle line:84% I appreciate the gentlelady's response. 00:49:12.090 --> 00:49:13.920 align:middle line:84% I would point out that we are not 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.500 align:middle line:84% talking about weeks of delay before we 00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:21.030 align:middle line:84% have September revenue numbers for the final accounting 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:24.540 align:middle line:84% for that month, that we are talking about days, 00:49:24.540 --> 00:49:26.460 align:middle line:90% not weeks and not months. 00:49:26.460 --> 00:49:28.470 align:middle line:84% I would further point out to Mr. President 00:49:28.470 --> 00:49:34.680 align:middle line:84% that in a letter written on September 20 of 2017 00:49:34.680 --> 00:49:37.320 align:middle line:84% to the Chairs of the Ways and Means Committees 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.510 align:middle line:84% and the ranking minority members, 00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:43.000 align:middle line:84% Commissioner Harding indicated that revenue collections are 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.350 align:middle line:84% uneven and weighted toward month end. 00:49:46.350 --> 00:49:48.600 align:middle line:84% And the brief period covered in the mid-month 00:49:48.600 --> 00:49:53.070 align:middle line:84% does not provide sufficient data for comparison to prior years. 00:49:53.070 --> 00:49:55.980 align:middle line:84% And this is bolded, Mr. President, in the letter. 00:49:55.980 --> 00:49:57.900 align:middle line:84% "Therefore, the department strongly 00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.660 align:middle line:84% urges that mid-month figures should not 00:50:00.660 --> 00:50:06.000 align:middle line:84% be used to assess trends or project future revenues." 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.220 align:middle line:84% And I'll repeat that statement from the letter 00:50:08.220 --> 00:50:10.060 align:middle line:90% of the Commissioner of Revenue. 00:50:10.060 --> 00:50:11.760 align:middle line:84% "Therefore, the department strongly 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.340 align:middle line:84% urges that mid-month figures should not 00:50:14.340 --> 00:50:19.580 align:middle line:84% be used to assess trends or project future revenues." 00:50:19.580 --> 00:50:23.400 align:middle line:84% Now, Mr. President, that's why the suggestion that I make 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.570 align:middle line:84% is that we should wait just a few days until we 00:50:27.570 --> 00:50:31.110 align:middle line:84% have actual information that can be verified 00:50:31.110 --> 00:50:35.480 align:middle line:84% and upon which judgments can be made about September revenue. 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.310 align:middle line:84% I would also further point out, Mr. President, 00:50:38.310 --> 00:50:40.790 align:middle line:84% that in the last two fiscal years, 00:50:40.790 --> 00:50:44.660 align:middle line:84% we have seen a similar scenario, a scenario where folks suggest 00:50:44.660 --> 00:50:48.140 align:middle line:84% that vetoes are wholly appropriate-- or overrides, 00:50:48.140 --> 00:50:50.570 align:middle line:84% rather, are wholly appropriate, that the budget 00:50:50.570 --> 00:50:52.070 align:middle line:90% can sustain them. 00:50:52.070 --> 00:50:55.490 align:middle line:84% And that in those years, we have seen subsequent reductions 00:50:55.490 --> 00:50:57.830 align:middle line:84% which are far more devastating, because 00:50:57.830 --> 00:51:01.940 align:middle line:84% of the time in the fiscal year in which they come than not 00:51:01.940 --> 00:51:05.090 align:middle line:84% overriding a veto at this particular time which 00:51:05.090 --> 00:51:07.680 align:middle line:84% is relatively early in the fiscal year. 00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:10.790 align:middle line:84% So as we wait to the harms here of action and inaction, Mr. 00:51:10.790 --> 00:51:13.370 align:middle line:84% President, it seems like we might 00:51:13.370 --> 00:51:16.550 align:middle line:84% be well-advised to learn from the last two fiscal years 00:51:16.550 --> 00:51:21.620 align:middle line:84% the danger of acting prematurely with regard to veto overrides, 00:51:21.620 --> 00:51:26.030 align:middle line:84% because of the subsequent damage that is done as a result of 9C 00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:30.200 align:middle line:84% cuts that must be undertaken to keep the budget in balance, 00:51:30.200 --> 00:51:35.000 align:middle line:84% but that almost necessarily occur later in the fiscal year 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:37.490 align:middle line:84% than would the postponement of considering 00:51:37.490 --> 00:51:41.960 align:middle line:84% veto overrides at a time such as the time period we're in now. 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:46.280 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, it seems to me that we 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.480 align:middle line:84% would be well-advised to learn from fiscal year 2016, 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.740 align:middle line:84% to learn from fiscal year 2017, and to say that we are going 00:51:54.740 --> 00:51:56.870 align:middle line:84% to do the prudent thing which is to wait 00:51:56.870 --> 00:51:59.930 align:middle line:84% for some additional information to understand 00:51:59.930 --> 00:52:02.690 align:middle line:84% the context and the trends of this budget 00:52:02.690 --> 00:52:05.420 align:middle line:84% before we make such momentous decisions is 00:52:05.420 --> 00:52:08.480 align:middle line:84% adding tens of millions of dollars back to the budget. 00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.070 align:middle line:84% And we say to all of the folks that 00:52:10.070 --> 00:52:13.960 align:middle line:84% are watching us to see what action is going to happen here 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:18.020 align:middle line:84% that we took the prudent course of not judging prematurely only 00:52:18.020 --> 00:52:24.200 align:middle line:84% to establish the predicate for mid-year 9C budget cuts 00:52:24.200 --> 00:52:26.520 align:middle line:84% that will be much more disruptive to those accounts 00:52:26.520 --> 00:52:29.750 align:middle line:84% and those programs than would be the failure to enact 00:52:29.750 --> 00:52:32.990 align:middle line:84% an override just a few days before we have 00:52:32.990 --> 00:52:35.510 align:middle line:84% sufficient information to possibly avoid 00:52:35.510 --> 00:52:36.770 align:middle line:90% that consequence. 00:52:36.770 --> 00:52:39.800 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, I appreciate the tremendous work 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.140 align:middle line:84% that the gentlelady from the Committee on Ways and Means 00:52:42.140 --> 00:52:42.640 align:middle line:90% has done. 00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:44.720 align:middle line:84% I appreciate the information that she's 00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:47.000 align:middle line:84% provided us today and the explanation 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:48.770 align:middle line:90% that she's provided us today. 00:52:48.770 --> 00:52:50.480 align:middle line:84% And I know that, Mr. President, she's 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.320 align:middle line:84% confident in the projections that she puts forward. 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.020 align:middle line:84% But Mr. President, I would point out 00:52:57.020 --> 00:53:00.530 align:middle line:84% that we adopted a budget based on a certain degree 00:53:00.530 --> 00:53:03.500 align:middle line:84% of confidence here just a few months ago 00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:06.050 align:middle line:84% that had to be reduced by hundreds of millions 00:53:06.050 --> 00:53:08.630 align:middle line:84% of dollars, because revenue projections were not 00:53:08.630 --> 00:53:11.060 align:middle line:84% consistent with those levels of spending. 00:53:11.060 --> 00:53:13.460 align:middle line:84% And we all know, Mr. President, the dramatic impact 00:53:13.460 --> 00:53:14.870 align:middle line:90% that that had. 00:53:14.870 --> 00:53:18.650 align:middle line:84% So I'm hoping that we can choose a more prudent, planned, 00:53:18.650 --> 00:53:20.600 align:middle line:84% and deliberate course that's based 00:53:20.600 --> 00:53:23.720 align:middle line:84% on having solid information in hand 00:53:23.720 --> 00:53:27.080 align:middle line:84% before we consider these several gubernatorial vetoes 00:53:27.080 --> 00:53:28.650 align:middle line:90% and potential overrides. 00:53:28.650 --> 00:53:31.040 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, we would heed the advice 00:53:31.040 --> 00:53:33.050 align:middle line:84% of the Commissioner of Revenue who 00:53:33.050 --> 00:53:36.770 align:middle line:84% suggest that we should wait until the end of September 00:53:36.770 --> 00:53:39.410 align:middle line:84% before making any judgments about where we're 00:53:39.410 --> 00:53:41.430 align:middle line:90% at with regard to revenue. 00:53:41.430 --> 00:53:43.460 align:middle line:84% And as a result of that, Mr. President, 00:53:43.460 --> 00:53:45.500 align:middle line:84% and in order to give us the opportunity 00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:48.920 align:middle line:84% to return to a course of prudence, 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.250 align:middle line:84% I offer an order in the hands of the Clerk 00:53:52.250 --> 00:53:54.980 align:middle line:84% that reads very simply that the Senate shall not 00:53:54.980 --> 00:53:57.770 align:middle line:84% take any action on items disapproved by the Governor 00:53:57.770 --> 00:53:59.570 align:middle line:90% from H 3800-- 00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:01.760 align:middle line:84% an act making appropriations for the fiscal year 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.060 align:middle line:84% 2018 for the maintenance of the departments, boards, 00:54:05.060 --> 00:54:07.730 align:middle line:84% commissions, institutions, and certain activities 00:54:07.730 --> 00:54:10.190 align:middle line:84% of the Commonwealth for interest, sinking fund, 00:54:10.190 --> 00:54:11.990 align:middle line:84% and serial bond requirements, and 00:54:11.990 --> 00:54:14.210 align:middle line:84% for certain permanent improvements, 00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:15.470 align:middle line:90% that's the budget-- 00:54:15.470 --> 00:54:19.310 align:middle line:84% until after the September 2017 tax revenue 00:54:19.310 --> 00:54:23.630 align:middle line:84% collections data provided by the Department of Revenue, 00:54:23.630 --> 00:54:27.140 align:middle line:84% so that we can wait a few days and take the prudent course 00:54:27.140 --> 00:54:29.180 align:middle line:84% of action with regard to the fiscal future 00:54:29.180 --> 00:54:30.420 align:middle line:90% of the Commonwealth. 00:54:30.420 --> 00:54:34.670 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, I move that the rules be suspended, 00:54:34.670 --> 00:54:37.988 align:middle line:84% so that order can be considered by the Senate forthwith. 00:54:37.988 --> 00:54:41.700 align:middle line:84% The gentleman has ruled that the rules be suspended, 00:54:41.700 --> 00:54:45.470 align:middle line:84% so that the ordinary course of action would not follow, 00:54:45.470 --> 00:54:48.080 align:middle line:84% which would be the order sent to the Rules 00:54:48.080 --> 00:54:50.130 align:middle line:90% Committee for consideration. 00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:53.230 align:middle line:84% 15 minutes debate, three minutes per member, 00:54:53.230 --> 00:54:58.010 align:middle line:84% the Chair recognizes the Senator from Plymouth and Barnstable, 00:54:58.010 --> 00:55:01.640 align:middle line:90% Mr. deMacedo. 00:55:01.640 --> 00:55:04.840 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President and through you to my colleagues. 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:08.720 align:middle line:84% I urge the suspension of the rules, 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:10.910 align:middle line:84% so that we can take up this order. 00:55:10.910 --> 00:55:15.320 align:middle line:84% And I, too, share the concerns of the gentleman 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.570 align:middle line:84% from Gloucester for obvious reasons. 00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:21.110 align:middle line:84% And it's because we are so close. 00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:23.690 align:middle line:90% It is September 28. 00:55:23.690 --> 00:55:27.170 align:middle line:84% By October 3 or 4, we will have that information. 00:55:27.170 --> 00:55:31.400 align:middle line:84% So next Thursday, we can actually go in to session 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.110 align:middle line:84% and actually have a debate in regards 00:55:34.110 --> 00:55:39.330 align:middle line:84% to what we should be doing with real factual numbers. 00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:42.840 align:middle line:84% And I'm concerned, because what has happened 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.270 align:middle line:84% in the past over the last two years, 00:55:45.270 --> 00:55:49.020 align:middle line:84% the Governor had to have veto moneys, $163 million. 00:55:49.020 --> 00:55:51.060 align:middle line:90% We overrode $98 million. 00:55:51.060 --> 00:55:55.850 align:middle line:84% That year we ended up being $481 million below benchmark. 00:55:55.850 --> 00:56:00.120 align:middle line:84% In FY '17, the Governor veto $264, 00:56:00.120 --> 00:56:03.030 align:middle line:90% the legislature overrode $256. 00:56:03.030 --> 00:56:06.990 align:middle line:84% That year, we were $431 million below benchmark. 00:56:06.990 --> 00:56:08.550 align:middle line:90% Why is that a concern? 00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:12.730 align:middle line:84% It is a concern, because we are running out of options. 00:56:12.730 --> 00:56:16.710 align:middle line:84% So let's say we override this money, and we expend it. 00:56:16.710 --> 00:56:18.570 align:middle line:90% And we continue to go. 00:56:18.570 --> 00:56:20.100 align:middle line:90% The Governor has two choices. 00:56:20.100 --> 00:56:22.980 align:middle line:84% It is 9C cuts as far as revenue goes. 00:56:22.980 --> 00:56:25.590 align:middle line:84% And as the gentleman shared before me, 00:56:25.590 --> 00:56:29.940 align:middle line:84% those cuts halfway through the year, a 3% cut in the budget, 00:56:29.940 --> 00:56:32.740 align:middle line:84% ends up being the equivalent of a 6% cut in the budget. 00:56:32.740 --> 00:56:35.520 align:middle line:84% And I'll tell you any agency in this legislature would tell you 00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:38.220 align:middle line:84% they would rather know the truth now than find out 00:56:38.220 --> 00:56:40.410 align:middle line:90% in December or January. 00:56:40.410 --> 00:56:44.220 align:middle line:84% Or, even worse is that we keep following out, 00:56:44.220 --> 00:56:47.130 align:middle line:84% and then we have to go after one last fund, which 00:56:47.130 --> 00:56:48.660 align:middle line:90% is our rainy day fund. 00:56:48.660 --> 00:56:52.920 align:middle line:84% We have $1.3 billion in our rainy day fund on a $40 billion 00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:54.070 align:middle line:90% budget. 00:56:54.070 --> 00:56:59.880 align:middle line:84% And in 2007, we had $2.8 billion in that rainy day fund 00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:02.700 align:middle line:90% with a $25 billion budget. 00:57:02.700 --> 00:57:05.640 align:middle line:84% So it just shows you that we do not have the cushion 00:57:05.640 --> 00:57:06.750 align:middle line:90% that we had then. 00:57:06.750 --> 00:57:10.500 align:middle line:84% And let me tell you, I think we all know, because many of us 00:57:10.500 --> 00:57:13.230 align:middle line:84% were there, that that rainy day fund helped 00:57:13.230 --> 00:57:15.420 align:middle line:90% alleviate a lot of pain. 00:57:15.420 --> 00:57:18.477 align:middle line:84% Beyond that, the biggest concern is what kind of a message 00:57:18.477 --> 00:57:20.310 align:middle line:84% does that send to the bondholders in regards 00:57:20.310 --> 00:57:23.280 align:middle line:84% to the fiscal health of the Commonwealth 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.290 align:middle line:84% if we have to cut into that rainy day fund? 00:57:27.290 --> 00:57:32.000 align:middle line:84% I want to sit here with all of my colleagues 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.420 align:middle line:84% and join you in overriding these very important items. 00:57:35.420 --> 00:57:36.120 align:middle line:90% I get it. 00:57:36.120 --> 00:57:38.240 align:middle line:84% I understand they're all very important. 00:57:38.240 --> 00:57:40.730 align:middle line:84% But we have a responsibility as legislators 00:57:40.730 --> 00:57:43.220 align:middle line:90% to live within our fiscal means. 00:57:43.220 --> 00:57:46.220 align:middle line:84% And the reality is we do not yet know what our fiscal means are. 00:57:46.220 --> 00:57:48.180 align:middle line:90% I am hopeful. 00:57:48.180 --> 00:57:53.540 align:middle line:84% I believe that when we find out that information on October 3, 00:57:53.540 --> 00:57:55.460 align:middle line:84% it will be a great opportunity for all of us. 00:57:55.460 --> 00:57:56.690 align:middle line:90% Yes, the revenues are better. 00:57:56.690 --> 00:57:58.280 align:middle line:90% And we can do these things. 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.230 align:middle line:90% We all want to do these things. 00:58:00.230 --> 00:58:03.530 align:middle line:84% But I'd like to do it with a clear vision of where 00:58:03.530 --> 00:58:04.400 align:middle line:90% we are financially. 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:09.560 align:middle line:84% So it is my hope that we do not take up and allow 00:58:09.560 --> 00:58:10.850 align:middle line:90% for the suspension of rules. 00:58:10.850 --> 00:58:12.920 align:middle line:84% So we can allow this order to go into effect, 00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.530 align:middle line:84% and then come back here next week, hopefully, 00:58:15.530 --> 00:58:19.880 align:middle line:84% with the news that the revenues are, in fact, $180 billion 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.130 align:middle line:84% above benchmark, and we were right. 00:58:22.130 --> 00:58:23.660 align:middle line:90% I hope that's the case. 00:58:23.660 --> 00:58:25.520 align:middle line:84% But if we're not, then we wouldn't 00:58:25.520 --> 00:58:29.572 align:middle line:84% have made what I believe is a large fiscal mistake that 00:58:29.572 --> 00:58:31.280 align:middle line:84% could cost the Commonwealth and certainly 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:32.550 align:middle line:90% hurt agencies down the road. 00:58:32.550 --> 00:58:36.010 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 00:58:36.010 --> 00:58:39.220 align:middle line:84% Chair recognizes the Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, 00:58:39.220 --> 00:58:39.760 align:middle line:90% Ms. Spilka. 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:48.950 align:middle line:90% 00:58:48.950 --> 00:58:53.600 align:middle line:84% I'd just like to reiterate one of the major points, two 00:58:53.600 --> 00:58:54.740 align:middle line:90% major points. 00:58:54.740 --> 00:58:59.540 align:middle line:84% When we submitted the budget, it was a balanced budget. 00:58:59.540 --> 00:59:02.900 align:middle line:84% I think almost everybody voted in favor of the budget. 00:59:02.900 --> 00:59:04.860 align:middle line:90% It was a balanced budget. 00:59:04.860 --> 00:59:07.790 align:middle line:84% Second point-- we are, as of now, I 00:59:07.790 --> 00:59:11.870 align:middle line:84% recognize it was the middle of September, $170 million 00:59:11.870 --> 00:59:13.700 align:middle line:90% above benchmark. 00:59:13.700 --> 00:59:16.820 align:middle line:84% I would suggest that there is no reason 00:59:16.820 --> 00:59:22.190 align:middle line:84% to be cutting when we are $170 million above benchmark. 00:59:22.190 --> 00:59:23.940 align:middle line:90% We will see what happens. 00:59:23.940 --> 00:59:27.080 align:middle line:84% But I believe that we still have a balanced budget. 00:59:27.080 --> 00:59:29.690 align:middle line:84% And I ask that when a vote be taken on this, 00:59:29.690 --> 00:59:32.480 align:middle line:84% it be taken by a call of the yeas and nays. 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:33.950 align:middle line:84% Vote on the suspension of the rules 00:59:33.950 --> 00:59:36.020 align:middle line:84% be taken by a call on the ayes and nays. 00:59:36.020 --> 00:59:38.577 align:middle line:84% Those joining [INAUDIBLE] rise and be counted. 00:59:38.577 --> 00:59:40.910 align:middle line:84% A sufficient number having risen when the vote is taken, 00:59:40.910 --> 00:59:42.320 align:middle line:84% it'll be taken by a call of the ayes and nay. 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.930 align:middle line:84% The Chair recognizes the Senator from Bristol and Plymouth, 00:59:44.930 --> 00:59:45.625 align:middle line:90% Mr. Montigny. 00:59:45.625 --> 00:59:48.690 align:middle line:90% 00:59:48.690 --> 00:59:51.870 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I would just recommend as Chairman of Rules 00:59:51.870 --> 00:59:54.990 align:middle line:84% that we have rules for good reason. 00:59:54.990 --> 01:00:01.950 align:middle line:84% In fact, I think we crafted a very responsible list of rules 01:00:01.950 --> 01:00:06.290 align:middle line:84% and rules reform this year in a real cooperative effort 01:00:06.290 --> 01:00:07.290 align:middle line:90% with the minority party. 01:00:07.290 --> 01:00:09.120 align:middle line:84% So I hope in this case there will 01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:12.049 align:middle line:84% be a no vote on the motion, because I think the rules are 01:00:12.049 --> 01:00:12.840 align:middle line:90% there for a reason. 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.100 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:00:15.100 --> 01:00:17.720 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:00:17.720 --> 01:00:21.992 align:middle line:84% The time remaining for debate is-- 01:00:21.992 --> 01:00:22.930 align:middle line:90% 10 minutes. 01:00:22.930 --> 01:00:25.010 align:middle line:90% --10 minutes. 01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.620 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through you to the members. 01:00:27.620 --> 01:00:30.290 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, you know, I have tremendous amount 01:00:30.290 --> 01:00:33.740 align:middle line:84% of respect for the gentleman who Chairs the Committee on Rules. 01:00:33.740 --> 01:00:35.210 align:middle line:84% But the gentleman knows that if we 01:00:35.210 --> 01:00:37.860 align:middle line:84% were to observe the rule that is currently in place, 01:00:37.860 --> 01:00:39.740 align:middle line:84% it would prevent the body from considering 01:00:39.740 --> 01:00:41.930 align:middle line:90% this order in a timely manner. 01:00:41.930 --> 01:00:43.400 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, if the gentleman 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.230 align:middle line:84% thought that we should never suspend the rules, 01:00:45.230 --> 01:00:46.771 align:middle line:84% then I would suggest he should attend 01:00:46.771 --> 01:00:49.170 align:middle line:84% every informal session of the body 01:00:49.170 --> 01:00:51.110 align:middle line:90% when we suspend rules regularly. 01:00:51.110 --> 01:00:54.080 align:middle line:84% In fact, Mr. President, I could prepare for him 01:00:54.080 --> 01:00:57.080 align:middle line:84% a spreadsheet of all the rules that are regularly suspended, 01:00:57.080 --> 01:01:01.070 align:middle line:84% so that matters can be taken up in a wide variety of ways. 01:01:01.070 --> 01:01:03.131 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, we collaborate 01:01:03.131 --> 01:01:04.880 align:middle line:84% on some of those suspensions of the rules. 01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.484 align:middle line:84% Because we understand that something is timely 01:01:07.484 --> 01:01:08.900 align:middle line:84% and that the rules would otherwise 01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:13.070 align:middle line:84% serve to be a barrier to timely consideration of a matter 01:01:13.070 --> 01:01:18.470 align:middle line:84% that would render its effect null or moot or void. 01:01:18.470 --> 01:01:20.210 align:middle line:84% The gentleman knows that, Mr. President, 01:01:20.210 --> 01:01:23.600 align:middle line:84% because we watch time and again as he either 01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:27.230 align:middle line:84% recommends or certainly is in tacit approval 01:01:27.230 --> 01:01:29.830 align:middle line:84% of the suspension of a particular rule. 01:01:29.830 --> 01:01:31.790 align:middle line:84% And how interesting is it, Mr. President, 01:01:31.790 --> 01:01:34.970 align:middle line:84% that one of the rules that's most often suspended 01:01:34.970 --> 01:01:37.460 align:middle line:84% is the requirement of a fiscal note 01:01:37.460 --> 01:01:39.950 align:middle line:84% with a particular piece of legislation, 01:01:39.950 --> 01:01:42.080 align:middle line:90% routinely suspended? 01:01:42.080 --> 01:01:44.240 align:middle line:84% So we close our eyes and say, well, we're not 01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:45.680 align:middle line:90% going to pay attention to this. 01:01:45.680 --> 01:01:49.340 align:middle line:84% Let's just admit it and refer it to Committee. 01:01:49.340 --> 01:01:52.730 align:middle line:84% I wonder where we are with those particular enforcement 01:01:52.730 --> 01:01:54.380 align:middle line:90% of the rules. 01:01:54.380 --> 01:01:56.540 align:middle line:84% Perhaps, we should, Mr. President, 01:01:56.540 --> 01:01:59.120 align:middle line:84% more often have a debate about moves suspension of that. 01:01:59.120 --> 01:02:00.920 align:middle line:90% I believe it's Rule 12. 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.410 align:middle line:84% Maybe we should debate that more often. 01:02:03.410 --> 01:02:05.930 align:middle line:84% as we seek to move legislation through the process 01:02:05.930 --> 01:02:09.560 align:middle line:84% without consideration of its fiscal impact at the outset 01:02:09.560 --> 01:02:12.410 align:middle line:90% as the rules dictate. 01:02:12.410 --> 01:02:15.350 align:middle line:84% No, Mr. President, this is not a suggestion 01:02:15.350 --> 01:02:18.740 align:middle line:84% of arbitrarily suspending a rule. 01:02:18.740 --> 01:02:21.170 align:middle line:84% This is a situation of suspending a rule when it's 01:02:21.170 --> 01:02:23.450 align:middle line:84% in the best interest of this body 01:02:23.450 --> 01:02:26.630 align:middle line:84% and of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to operate, 01:02:26.630 --> 01:02:29.690 align:middle line:84% has been so often proclaimed at this microphone 01:02:29.690 --> 01:02:32.870 align:middle line:84% and that microphone and that microphone, 01:02:32.870 --> 01:02:35.540 align:middle line:84% that we should always operate with the best 01:02:35.540 --> 01:02:39.910 align:middle line:84% available information, a hard proposition to disagree with. 01:02:39.910 --> 01:02:41.360 align:middle line:84% And the Senate President certainly 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.970 align:middle line:84% has created an environment in this chamber 01:02:43.970 --> 01:02:46.100 align:middle line:90% where we honor that proposition. 01:02:46.100 --> 01:02:48.800 align:middle line:84% And we support him in that and appreciate his leadership 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.190 align:middle line:90% in that regard. 01:02:50.190 --> 01:02:53.630 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, this is rather a situation where 01:02:53.630 --> 01:02:57.020 align:middle line:84% we have a choice, when we have a choice, Mr. President, 01:02:57.020 --> 01:03:01.580 align:middle line:84% between choosing conscious ignorance of saying that we 01:03:01.580 --> 01:03:04.230 align:middle line:84% know that information is right around the corner, 01:03:04.230 --> 01:03:06.330 align:middle line:84% but we're going to choose to ignore it, 01:03:06.330 --> 01:03:09.380 align:middle line:84% or whether we say let's receive that information. 01:03:09.380 --> 01:03:11.360 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, put it through and subject it 01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:13.130 align:middle line:84% to the various analyses that we all 01:03:13.130 --> 01:03:15.620 align:middle line:84% do when we receive that kind of information 01:03:15.620 --> 01:03:18.290 align:middle line:84% and make the best decisions we can. 01:03:18.290 --> 01:03:21.290 align:middle line:84% But to suggest somehow, Mr. President, 01:03:21.290 --> 01:03:26.600 align:middle line:84% that by postponing consideration of an order that really has one 01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:29.870 align:middle line:84% moving part to say that we'll postpone consideration 01:03:29.870 --> 01:03:33.140 align:middle line:84% of vetoes until, effectively, next week 01:03:33.140 --> 01:03:34.820 align:middle line:90% makes me wonder, Mr. President. 01:03:34.820 --> 01:03:38.450 align:middle line:84% Perhaps, if the gentleman feels as strongly about that, 01:03:38.450 --> 01:03:41.180 align:middle line:84% we could pass a second order, Mr. President, 01:03:41.180 --> 01:03:43.280 align:middle line:84% that the Rules Committee will report immediately 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.610 align:middle line:84% and forthwith on an order that says we won't consider vetoes 01:03:46.610 --> 01:03:48.440 align:middle line:90% until we get revenue data. 01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:51.140 align:middle line:84% Now, Mr. President, I am always amazed 01:03:51.140 --> 01:03:53.360 align:middle line:84% at the ability of the gentleman from New Bedford. 01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.700 align:middle line:90% It never ceases to amaze me. 01:03:55.700 --> 01:03:58.130 align:middle line:84% He is a compendium of information. 01:03:58.130 --> 01:04:01.400 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, his level and degree of analysis 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.220 align:middle line:84% is absolutely astonishing for all of us. 01:04:05.220 --> 01:04:07.700 align:middle line:84% And so I suspect that to analyze the four 01:04:07.700 --> 01:04:09.620 align:middle line:84% lines in this order, Mr. President, 01:04:09.620 --> 01:04:13.130 align:middle line:84% for him should be just about as easy as waking up 01:04:13.130 --> 01:04:14.120 align:middle line:90% in the morning. 01:04:14.120 --> 01:04:16.790 align:middle line:84% And so if we want to stand on the rules, 01:04:16.790 --> 01:04:19.610 align:middle line:84% then we'll just amend the order and set a deadline. 01:04:19.610 --> 01:04:22.190 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, we'll even be fair about it. 01:04:22.190 --> 01:04:24.860 align:middle line:84% We'll say that we should postpone consideration 01:04:24.860 --> 01:04:26.690 align:middle line:84% of the vetoes until the gentleman has had 01:04:26.690 --> 01:04:28.970 align:middle line:90% a chance to weigh on the order. 01:04:28.970 --> 01:04:30.567 align:middle line:84% And then we can vote on the order. 01:04:30.567 --> 01:04:32.150 align:middle line:84% And then if the order doesn't prevail, 01:04:32.150 --> 01:04:33.380 align:middle line:90% we can take up the vetoes. 01:04:33.380 --> 01:04:35.930 align:middle line:84% We are seeking here to be collaborative, not 01:04:35.930 --> 01:04:37.440 align:middle line:90% obstructionist. 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:40.220 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, again, if the gentleman 01:04:40.220 --> 01:04:43.130 align:middle line:84% wants to observe the rules, then the rules 01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:45.560 align:middle line:84% provide for a way to expedite this. 01:04:45.560 --> 01:04:48.487 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I know that he is checking his watch 01:04:48.487 --> 01:04:49.070 align:middle line:90% at the moment. 01:04:49.070 --> 01:04:51.110 align:middle line:84% I'm not sure, Mr. President, if that's 01:04:51.110 --> 01:04:53.210 align:middle line:84% because he's timing the length of my remarks, 01:04:53.210 --> 01:04:55.820 align:middle line:84% or he's giving us an assessment of how long it would take 01:04:55.820 --> 01:04:58.760 align:middle line:84% the Rules Committee to analyze an order that says we won't 01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.830 align:middle line:90% take up vetoes until next week. 01:05:00.830 --> 01:05:02.630 align:middle line:90% I'm not sure which one it is. 01:05:02.630 --> 01:05:04.220 align:middle line:84% I suspect, Mr. President, that I have 01:05:04.220 --> 01:05:06.080 align:middle line:84% more time left in the debate than it 01:05:06.080 --> 01:05:08.810 align:middle line:84% would take the gentleman who was of sultan the Rules 01:05:08.810 --> 01:05:10.640 align:middle line:84% Committee from being able to come up 01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:12.860 align:middle line:90% with a report on this matter. 01:05:12.860 --> 01:05:15.260 align:middle line:84% And what would be really interesting, Mr. President, 01:05:15.260 --> 01:05:18.230 align:middle line:84% is if there was any kind of a recommendation from the Rules 01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:20.360 align:middle line:84% Committee that in effect says that we should 01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:23.510 align:middle line:84% choose conscious ignorance and ignore the information that 01:05:23.510 --> 01:05:26.720 align:middle line:84% is days away from one of the most important revenue 01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:31.490 align:middle line:84% months in the year before we consider budget vetoes that 01:05:31.490 --> 01:05:33.690 align:middle line:84% total tens of millions of dollars. 01:05:33.690 --> 01:05:36.427 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, I'm happy to engage the gentlemen 01:05:36.427 --> 01:05:38.510 align:middle line:84% if he would like to have a Rules Committee report. 01:05:38.510 --> 01:05:40.280 align:middle line:84% And we can set a time limit on it. 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.040 align:middle line:84% I'd be happy to accept that as a friendly amendment. 01:05:43.040 --> 01:05:45.560 align:middle line:84% Barring that, Mr. President, I suspect 01:05:45.560 --> 01:05:49.280 align:middle line:84% that the gentleman has already analyzed this several times. 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.450 align:middle line:84% And knowing him as I do and knowing his passionate embrace 01:05:53.450 --> 01:05:56.690 align:middle line:84% of the facts and careful analysis, 01:05:56.690 --> 01:05:59.000 align:middle line:84% I would suspect that he would say 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.580 align:middle line:84% if he would have to make a report on this matter 01:06:01.580 --> 01:06:04.730 align:middle line:84% that, of course, it's prudent to understand what September 01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:07.137 align:middle line:90% brings before taking action. 01:06:07.137 --> 01:06:09.470 align:middle line:84% on things that will affect us for the rest of the month. 01:06:09.470 --> 01:06:12.830 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I hope the rules are suspended. 01:06:12.830 --> 01:06:15.450 align:middle line:84% The yeas and nays having been ordered, 01:06:15.450 --> 01:06:21.204 align:middle line:84% it is a 2/3 vote is required to approve the suspension. 01:06:21.204 --> 01:06:23.620 align:middle line:84% And the Clerk will call the roll beginning with the Chair. 01:06:23.620 --> 01:06:30.170 align:middle line:90% 01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:31.370 align:middle line:90% Stanley C. Rosenberg. 01:06:31.370 --> 01:06:32.060 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:32.060 --> 01:06:34.820 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:34.820 --> 01:06:35.840 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:36.620 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:36.620 --> 01:06:39.060 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:39.060 --> 01:06:40.366 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:06:40.366 --> 01:06:41.180 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:41.180 --> 01:06:42.710 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:42.710 --> 01:06:43.770 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:06:43.770 --> 01:06:44.440 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.220 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:46.220 --> 01:06:47.670 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:06:47.670 --> 01:06:48.410 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:48.410 --> 01:06:49.890 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:49.890 --> 01:06:51.090 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:06:51.090 --> 01:06:51.770 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:51.770 --> 01:06:53.360 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:54.620 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 01:06:54.620 --> 01:06:55.310 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:55.310 --> 01:06:57.200 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:57.200 --> 01:06:58.460 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:06:58.460 --> 01:06:59.120 align:middle line:90% No. 01:06:59.120 --> 01:07:00.990 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:00.990 --> 01:07:01.850 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 01:07:01.850 --> 01:07:02.400 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.040 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:04.040 --> 01:07:05.710 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 01:07:05.710 --> 01:07:07.650 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:07.650 --> 01:07:08.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:08.150 --> 01:07:10.720 align:middle line:90% 01:07:10.720 --> 01:07:12.420 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 01:07:12.420 --> 01:07:13.120 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:13.120 --> 01:07:14.680 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:14.680 --> 01:07:15.600 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:07:15.600 --> 01:07:16.100 align:middle line:90% You 01:07:16.100 --> 01:07:16.760 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.160 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:18.160 --> 01:07:19.496 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:07:19.496 --> 01:07:20.230 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:20.230 --> 01:07:21.660 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:21.660 --> 01:07:22.591 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:07:22.591 --> 01:07:23.090 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:23.090 --> 01:07:24.820 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:26.032 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:07:26.032 --> 01:07:28.990 align:middle line:90% 01:07:28.990 --> 01:07:30.440 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:31.300 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:31.300 --> 01:07:32.920 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:33.750 align:middle line:90% Anne M Gobi. 01:07:33.750 --> 01:07:34.660 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:34.660 --> 01:07:36.160 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:37.260 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:07:37.260 --> 01:07:37.930 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:37.930 --> 01:07:39.730 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:39.730 --> 01:07:41.070 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 01:07:41.070 --> 01:07:41.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:41.700 --> 01:07:43.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:07:43.150 --> 01:07:43.955 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:07:43.955 --> 01:07:46.620 align:middle line:90% 01:07:46.620 --> 01:07:47.470 align:middle line:90% Senator Jehlen? 01:07:47.470 --> 01:07:50.266 align:middle line:90% 01:07:50.266 --> 01:07:51.200 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:53.800 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:54.760 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.420 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:55.420 --> 01:07:56.800 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:57.860 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:07:57.860 --> 01:07:58.500 align:middle line:90% No. 01:07:58.500 --> 01:08:00.010 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:00.010 --> 01:08:01.060 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:08:01.060 --> 01:08:01.930 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:01.930 --> 01:08:03.320 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:04.600 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:08:04.600 --> 01:08:05.500 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:05.500 --> 01:08:07.090 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:07.090 --> 01:08:07.940 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 01:08:07.940 --> 01:08:08.440 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:09.640 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:09.640 --> 01:08:10.690 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 01:08:10.690 --> 01:08:11.640 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:11.640 --> 01:08:13.860 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:13.860 --> 01:08:15.070 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:08:15.070 --> 01:08:15.850 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:15.850 --> 01:08:17.890 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:17.890 --> 01:08:19.176 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 01:08:19.176 --> 01:08:19.870 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:19.870 --> 01:08:21.579 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:21.579 --> 01:08:22.890 align:middle line:90% Patrick M. O'Connor. 01:08:22.890 --> 01:08:23.529 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:08:23.529 --> 01:08:25.420 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:08:25.420 --> 01:08:26.819 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:08:26.819 --> 01:08:27.620 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:27.620 --> 01:08:29.529 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:29.529 --> 01:08:30.949 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:08:30.949 --> 01:08:31.630 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:31.630 --> 01:08:34.420 align:middle line:90% No Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:08:34.420 --> 01:08:35.370 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:35.370 --> 01:08:36.910 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:36.910 --> 01:08:38.778 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 01:08:38.778 --> 01:08:39.770 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] yes. 01:08:39.770 --> 01:08:41.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:08:41.550 --> 01:08:42.490 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:08:42.490 --> 01:08:43.090 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:43.090 --> 01:08:43.590 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:43.590 --> 01:08:47.029 align:middle line:90% 01:08:47.029 --> 01:08:48.323 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:08:48.323 --> 01:08:49.069 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:49.069 --> 01:08:50.470 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:50.470 --> 01:08:51.841 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:08:51.841 --> 01:08:52.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:08:52.340 --> 01:08:53.500 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:08:53.500 --> 01:08:54.900 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:55.600 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:56.689 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:56.689 --> 01:08:58.090 align:middle line:90% James T. Welch. 01:08:58.090 --> 01:08:58.910 align:middle line:90% No. 01:08:58.910 --> 01:09:00.170 align:middle line:90% No. 01:09:00.170 --> 01:09:02.570 align:middle line:90% Have all members been recorded? 01:09:02.570 --> 01:09:11.220 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:09:11.220 --> 01:09:14.350 align:middle line:84% On this matter 6 having voted in the affirmative, 30 01:09:14.350 --> 01:09:17.819 align:middle line:84% in the negative, 31 in the negative, 01:09:17.819 --> 01:09:20.859 align:middle line:90% the rules are not suspended. 01:09:20.859 --> 01:09:25.689 align:middle line:84% And the order will, in fact, be referred to the very committee 01:09:25.689 --> 01:09:29.950 align:middle line:84% that the gentleman sought consideration from-- 01:09:29.950 --> 01:09:30.920 align:middle line:90% paper from the House. 01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:36.340 align:middle line:90% 01:09:36.340 --> 01:09:40.180 align:middle line:84% Item number 0321-2100 containing section two 01:09:40.180 --> 01:09:42.773 align:middle line:84% relative to Correctional Legal Services Committee 01:09:42.773 --> 01:09:44.439 align:middle line:84% comes from the House for the endorsement 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.300 align:middle line:84% that the House has passed this bill 01:09:46.300 --> 01:09:49.930 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the reduction of His Excellency the Governor 117 01:09:49.930 --> 01:09:51.939 align:middle line:90% to 35. 01:09:51.939 --> 01:09:55.670 align:middle line:84% The question before the Senate is shall this item pass 01:09:55.670 --> 01:09:58.780 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the objections of the Governor 01:09:58.780 --> 01:10:01.355 align:middle line:84% to the contrary-- the Senator from Essex Mr. Tarr. 01:10:01.355 --> 01:10:03.730 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through you to the members. 01:10:03.730 --> 01:10:05.965 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, point of parliamentary inquiry? 01:10:05.965 --> 01:10:08.570 align:middle line:84% The gentleman will State his point of parliamentary inquiry. 01:10:08.570 --> 01:10:10.990 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, has the pending matter 01:10:10.990 --> 01:10:14.227 align:middle line:84% before the Senate been reported upon by either the Committee 01:10:14.227 --> 01:10:16.060 align:middle line:84% on Ways and Means or the Committee on Rules? 01:10:16.060 --> 01:10:18.670 align:middle line:90% 01:10:18.670 --> 01:10:19.390 align:middle line:90% It has not. 01:10:19.390 --> 01:10:23.560 align:middle line:84% It has been taken up as a paper from the House. 01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:25.060 align:middle line:90% Mr. President? 01:10:25.060 --> 01:10:26.860 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:10:26.860 --> 01:10:28.040 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:10:28.040 --> 01:10:30.460 align:middle line:84% And I hope everyone has certainly 01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:32.700 align:middle line:84% seen what's happening here, where 01:10:32.700 --> 01:10:35.920 align:middle line:84% we use a clever bit of parliamentary technique 01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:37.810 align:middle line:90% to avoid analysis. 01:10:37.810 --> 01:10:40.740 align:middle line:84% Because we, Mr. President, just moments ago 01:10:40.740 --> 01:10:43.420 align:middle line:84% swore allegiance to the rules even when 01:10:43.420 --> 01:10:47.140 align:middle line:84% it means that we can't take up something in a timely manner. 01:10:47.140 --> 01:10:48.880 align:middle line:84% But now, we have matters before us 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.400 align:middle line:84% that have neither been through the Committee on Rules, 01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:54.700 align:middle line:84% nor have they been reported on by the Committee 01:10:54.700 --> 01:10:55.510 align:middle line:90% on Ways and Means. 01:10:55.510 --> 01:10:56.010 align:middle line:90% So. 01:10:56.010 --> 01:10:58.840 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I would expect that the gentleman from Rules 01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.960 align:middle line:84% will be next making a motion to refer these matters, 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.210 align:middle line:84% so that they can be properly considered 01:11:04.210 --> 01:11:06.130 align:middle line:90% according to the rules. 01:11:06.130 --> 01:11:09.700 align:middle line:84% Further, Mr. President, let me point out that failing that-- 01:11:09.700 --> 01:11:11.600 align:middle line:90% and I suspect it may not happen. 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.470 align:middle line:84% I know that there are long odds against that. 01:11:14.470 --> 01:11:17.680 align:middle line:84% But what we're about to engage in, Mr. President, 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.946 align:middle line:84% is really a situation of override roulette, 01:11:20.946 --> 01:11:22.570 align:middle line:84% where a number of matters are presented 01:11:22.570 --> 01:11:25.350 align:middle line:90% to us in a very rapid pace. 01:11:25.350 --> 01:11:27.370 align:middle line:84% And we are to consider them in the context-- 01:11:27.370 --> 01:11:30.170 align:middle line:90% 01:11:30.170 --> 01:11:33.148 align:middle line:84% Chair apologizes for interrupting 01:11:33.148 --> 01:11:35.588 align:middle line:90% the gentlemen who's speaking. 01:11:35.588 --> 01:11:39.480 align:middle line:84% It's been pointed out that [INAUDIBLE] very difficult 01:11:39.480 --> 01:11:39.980 align:middle line:90% to hear. 01:11:39.980 --> 01:11:41.932 align:middle line:90% I've stated that repeatedly. 01:11:41.932 --> 01:11:45.348 align:middle line:84% But I'm told that it's even more difficult with people 01:11:45.348 --> 01:11:50.810 align:middle line:84% congregating in the aisles that are next to the two places 01:11:50.810 --> 01:11:52.700 align:middle line:90% where the members speak. 01:11:52.700 --> 01:11:56.510 align:middle line:84% And while your conversations are going on in those aisles, 01:11:56.510 --> 01:12:01.460 align:middle line:84% it's very distracting, not only for the folks listening, 01:12:01.460 --> 01:12:03.410 align:middle line:84% but for the two people who are actually 01:12:03.410 --> 01:12:05.480 align:middle line:90% engaged in debate right there. 01:12:05.480 --> 01:12:08.390 align:middle line:84% So again, if you are able to do so, 01:12:08.390 --> 01:12:11.090 align:middle line:84% please conduct your conversations 01:12:11.090 --> 01:12:12.750 align:middle line:90% outside of the chamber. 01:12:12.750 --> 01:12:14.900 align:middle line:84% If you must speak within the chamber, 01:12:14.900 --> 01:12:18.650 align:middle line:90% please do so in a subdued tone. 01:12:18.650 --> 01:12:21.560 align:middle line:84% And please do so somewhere closer to the middle 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:25.010 align:middle line:84% here, so that it will not distract the people who 01:12:25.010 --> 01:12:30.100 align:middle line:84% are actually trying to speak and focus on their debate, 01:12:30.100 --> 01:12:32.930 align:middle line:90% because it's very distracting. 01:12:32.930 --> 01:12:36.050 align:middle line:84% They can't even sort of focus on their own thoughts, 01:12:36.050 --> 01:12:39.950 align:middle line:84% because they can actually hear the conversations that are 01:12:39.950 --> 01:12:41.900 align:middle line:90% going on in these two aisles. 01:12:41.900 --> 01:12:43.860 align:middle line:84% So I thank you for your forbearance on this. 01:12:43.860 --> 01:12:46.850 align:middle line:84% And the Chair recognizes the Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:12:46.850 --> 01:12:48.350 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:12:48.350 --> 01:12:49.730 align:middle line:90% Your action is most welcome. 01:12:49.730 --> 01:12:52.010 align:middle line:84% I want to thank the gentlelady from Ways and Means who 01:12:52.010 --> 01:12:54.320 align:middle line:84% I know was having similar difficulty hearing 01:12:54.320 --> 01:12:56.520 align:middle line:84% and brought the situation to your attention. 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.780 align:middle line:84% I actually was able to hear a little bit of things that 01:12:59.780 --> 01:13:02.150 align:middle line:84% were being said by some of these congregated groups 01:13:02.150 --> 01:13:04.580 align:middle line:84% as they were saying, why would we take vetoes 01:13:04.580 --> 01:13:06.560 align:middle line:84% when we're only days away from having 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:10.400 align:middle line:84% more information about the fiscal year 2018 budget? 01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:12.470 align:middle line:84% I heard that in at least two or three clusters. 01:13:12.470 --> 01:13:15.600 align:middle line:84% And in fact, I even saw some head scratching going on, 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.390 align:middle line:84% which is sort of a nonverbal indication 01:13:17.390 --> 01:13:20.540 align:middle line:84% that we're in quite a mysterious position here. 01:13:20.540 --> 01:13:23.000 align:middle line:84% But Mr. President, again, failing 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.670 align:middle line:84% any interventionist action here on the part of the Committee 01:13:25.670 --> 01:13:27.980 align:middle line:84% on Rules or its Chairman, I suspect 01:13:27.980 --> 01:13:30.110 align:middle line:84% that what we are about to engage in 01:13:30.110 --> 01:13:32.990 align:middle line:84% is, in fact, override roulette, where 01:13:32.990 --> 01:13:35.990 align:middle line:84% you have to place your bet, spin the wheel, 01:13:35.990 --> 01:13:39.020 align:middle line:84% vote one way or the other, and hope for the best. 01:13:39.020 --> 01:13:41.480 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, I don't believe 01:13:41.480 --> 01:13:43.310 align:middle line:84% that sound budgeting should incorporate 01:13:43.310 --> 01:13:45.350 align:middle line:84% the practice of override roulette, 01:13:45.350 --> 01:13:48.500 align:middle line:84% particularly when we have just a few days 01:13:48.500 --> 01:13:50.420 align:middle line:90% to have better information. 01:13:50.420 --> 01:13:53.300 align:middle line:84% Now, clearly Mr. President, all of the items 01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:55.910 align:middle line:84% that are going to be considered if we consider 01:13:55.910 --> 01:13:59.930 align:middle line:84% the several vetoes for override represent 01:13:59.930 --> 01:14:04.280 align:middle line:84% a program that is, in many ways, Mr. President, laudable. 01:14:04.280 --> 01:14:05.970 align:middle line:90% They all have a purpose. 01:14:05.970 --> 01:14:08.330 align:middle line:84% They were all included in the budget for a reason. 01:14:08.330 --> 01:14:11.240 align:middle line:84% They were all approved by this body for a reason 01:14:11.240 --> 01:14:14.330 align:middle line:84% as the body expressed its support for the budget that 01:14:14.330 --> 01:14:16.730 align:middle line:84% was engineered by the distinguished Chair 01:14:16.730 --> 01:14:18.710 align:middle line:84% of the Committee on Ways and Means. 01:14:18.710 --> 01:14:20.660 align:middle line:84% But Mr. President, this should not 01:14:20.660 --> 01:14:24.560 align:middle line:84% be a discussion about a particular item 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:28.250 align:middle line:84% or its particular constituency or its particular purpose, 01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:30.810 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, necessarily at this point. 01:14:30.810 --> 01:14:34.370 align:middle line:84% We should be having a discussion about the prudence of voting 01:14:34.370 --> 01:14:36.840 align:middle line:90% to override all of these items. 01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:43.450 align:middle line:84% and establishing the predicate for a requisite subsequent 9C 01:14:43.450 --> 01:14:46.220 align:middle line:84% if September revenue and the months that follow 01:14:46.220 --> 01:14:49.130 align:middle line:84% do not meet the benchmarks that were set forth in developing 01:14:49.130 --> 01:14:50.410 align:middle line:90% this spending plan. 01:14:50.410 --> 01:14:52.160 align:middle line:90% It's quite that simple. 01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:54.620 align:middle line:84% So Mr. President, I know that it may 01:14:54.620 --> 01:14:57.830 align:middle line:84% be tempting to focus on some of these individual programs. 01:14:57.830 --> 01:15:01.520 align:middle line:84% Again, Mr. President, they're all in the budget for a reason. 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.220 align:middle line:84% They all affect people in the Commonwealth. 01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:07.280 align:middle line:84% And that's why we need to be particularly careful in how 01:15:07.280 --> 01:15:09.156 align:middle line:90% we handle these matters. 01:15:09.156 --> 01:15:11.030 align:middle line:84% Now, Mr. President, I suspect that we are not 01:15:11.030 --> 01:15:13.610 align:middle line:84% going to hear from the Chairman of the Rules Committee 01:15:13.610 --> 01:15:17.330 align:middle line:84% about referring these to Rules or the Chairman of the Ways 01:15:17.330 --> 01:15:20.139 align:middle line:84% and Means Committee on referring these to Ways and Means. 01:15:20.139 --> 01:15:21.680 align:middle line:84% So we're left with having to consider 01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:24.560 align:middle line:84% as best we can the situation that we are going 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:26.930 align:middle line:84% to face as a Commonwealth in the remaining 01:15:26.930 --> 01:15:28.790 align:middle line:90% months of this fiscal year. 01:15:28.790 --> 01:15:30.920 align:middle line:84% Again, Mr. President, I hope and would 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:33.620 align:middle line:84% hope that there is a better approach chosen 01:15:33.620 --> 01:15:35.300 align:middle line:90% than override roulette. 01:15:35.300 --> 01:15:36.967 align:middle line:84% But it seems like that's where we're at. 01:15:36.967 --> 01:15:39.425 align:middle line:84% And Mr. President, I hope that we'll consider each of these 01:15:39.425 --> 01:15:40.250 align:middle line:90% carefully. 01:15:40.250 --> 01:15:44.000 align:middle line:84% That being said, I know that an override is before the Senate 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:44.960 align:middle line:90% presently. 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.840 align:middle line:84% And I'm hoping that the gentlelady from Ways and Means 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:51.380 align:middle line:84% can explain to us what this particular matter is that now 01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:53.990 align:middle line:84% pends before the Senate and, Mr. President, 01:15:53.990 --> 01:15:57.950 align:middle line:84% how much it adds back to the budget that we hope 01:15:57.950 --> 01:16:00.470 align:middle line:84% will be restored by revenue that will come in 01:16:00.470 --> 01:16:01.940 align:middle line:90% from the next successive months. 01:16:01.940 --> 01:16:03.110 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:16:03.110 --> 01:16:06.860 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms Spilka. 01:16:06.860 --> 01:16:08.900 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:16:08.900 --> 01:16:12.950 align:middle line:84% This first veto would reduce the Prisoners' Legal Services 01:16:12.950 --> 01:16:20.720 align:middle line:84% funding by $122,000 for a total funding level of $1.4 million. 01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:24.620 align:middle line:84% Prisoners' Legal Services is the sole organization 01:16:24.620 --> 01:16:30.830 align:middle line:84% responsible for providing legal services to the state's 22,000 01:16:30.830 --> 01:16:35.270 align:middle line:84% inmates creating a ratio of inmates to Prisoners' Legal 01:16:35.270 --> 01:16:39.320 align:middle line:84% Services attorneys that's approximately-- 01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:41.840 align:middle line:90% and get this-- 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:46.940 align:middle line:90% 2,750 to 1. 01:16:46.940 --> 01:16:51.080 align:middle line:90% That's 2,750 to 1. 01:16:51.080 --> 01:16:53.300 align:middle line:84% Some of these legal services include 01:16:53.300 --> 01:16:56.900 align:middle line:84% advocating for inmates regarding mental health and substance 01:16:56.900 --> 01:17:00.680 align:middle line:84% abuse disorder, treatment in prisons 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:04.880 align:middle line:84% and houses of correction, as well as other civil rights 01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:10.310 align:middle line:84% litigation, client counseling, and legislative outreach. 01:17:10.310 --> 01:17:14.720 align:middle line:84% Reducing funding to this nonprofit organization 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.600 align:middle line:84% would definitely weaken its ability 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.840 align:middle line:84% to provide crucial legal services 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:25.220 align:middle line:84% to incarcerated persons across Massachusetts 01:17:25.220 --> 01:17:31.280 align:middle line:84% with such already large case loads any negative impact 01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:35.900 align:middle line:84% on Prisoners' Legal Services ability to fully staff 01:17:35.900 --> 01:17:41.240 align:middle line:84% would weaken access to justice, a very important Senate 01:17:41.240 --> 01:17:42.440 align:middle line:90% initiative. 01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:48.700 align:middle line:84% Therefore, I ask that you vote yes and overturn this veto. 01:17:48.700 --> 01:17:50.340 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 01:17:50.340 --> 01:17:54.732 align:middle line:90% 01:17:54.732 --> 01:18:00.100 align:middle line:90% It's 213. 01:18:00.100 --> 01:18:02.891 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:18:02.891 --> 01:18:03.390 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:03.390 --> 01:18:05.870 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:05.870 --> 01:18:07.191 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:18:07.191 --> 01:18:07.690 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:07.690 --> 01:18:09.250 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:09.250 --> 01:18:10.270 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:18:10.270 --> 01:18:10.810 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:12.400 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:13.980 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:18:13.980 --> 01:18:14.480 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:15.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:15.930 --> 01:18:17.370 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:18:17.370 --> 01:18:18.050 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:18.050 --> 01:18:20.630 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:20.630 --> 01:18:22.450 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 01:18:22.450 --> 01:18:23.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:23.370 --> 01:18:25.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:25.130 --> 01:18:26.460 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:26.960 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:28.910 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:28.910 --> 01:18:29.650 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 01:18:29.650 --> 01:18:30.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:30.150 --> 01:18:32.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:32.790 --> 01:18:34.300 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 01:18:34.300 --> 01:18:35.130 align:middle line:90% No. 01:18:35.130 --> 01:18:36.930 align:middle line:90% No. 01:18:36.930 --> 01:18:37.990 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 01:18:37.990 --> 01:18:38.970 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:38.970 --> 01:18:40.170 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:40.170 --> 01:18:41.180 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:18:41.180 --> 01:18:41.693 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:41.693 --> 01:18:44.090 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:44.090 --> 01:18:45.050 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:18:45.050 --> 01:18:45.830 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:45.830 --> 01:18:47.240 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:47.240 --> 01:18:48.210 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:18:48.210 --> 01:18:48.980 align:middle line:90% No. 01:18:48.980 --> 01:18:50.480 align:middle line:90% No. 01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:53.990 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:18:53.990 --> 01:18:55.780 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:18:55.780 --> 01:18:56.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:56.550 --> 01:18:58.050 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:58.050 --> 01:18:58.990 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 01:18:58.990 --> 01:18:59.490 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:18:59.490 --> 01:19:00.900 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:02.040 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:19:02.040 --> 01:19:02.740 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:02.740 --> 01:19:04.910 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:04.910 --> 01:19:06.160 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 01:19:06.160 --> 01:19:07.000 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.130 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:09.130 --> 01:19:10.050 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:19:10.050 --> 01:19:10.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:10.980 --> 01:19:12.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:12.510 --> 01:19:13.480 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 01:19:13.480 --> 01:19:13.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:13.980 --> 01:19:15.480 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:15.480 --> 01:19:16.817 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:19:16.817 --> 01:19:17.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:17.950 --> 01:19:19.330 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:19.330 --> 01:19:20.410 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:19:20.410 --> 01:19:21.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:21.370 --> 01:19:22.750 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:22.750 --> 01:19:23.970 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:19:23.970 --> 01:19:24.750 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:24.750 --> 01:19:25.970 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:25.970 --> 01:19:27.010 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 01:19:27.010 --> 01:19:27.850 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:27.850 --> 01:19:29.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:29.620 --> 01:19:30.780 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 01:19:30.780 --> 01:19:31.660 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:31.660 --> 01:19:33.740 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:33.740 --> 01:19:34.860 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:19:34.860 --> 01:19:35.830 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:35.830 --> 01:19:37.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:37.320 --> 01:19:38.850 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 01:19:38.850 --> 01:19:39.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:39.350 --> 01:19:40.570 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:40.570 --> 01:19:41.690 align:middle line:90% Patrick M. O'Connor. 01:19:41.690 --> 01:19:42.360 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:42.360 --> 01:19:44.000 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:45.540 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:19:45.540 --> 01:19:46.070 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:46.070 --> 01:19:47.330 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:47.330 --> 01:19:48.500 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:19:48.500 --> 01:19:49.300 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:49.300 --> 01:19:50.630 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:50.630 --> 01:19:51.900 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:19:51.900 --> 01:19:52.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:52.610 --> 01:19:54.080 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:54.080 --> 01:19:55.220 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 01:19:55.220 --> 01:19:56.080 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:56.080 --> 01:19:57.670 align:middle line:90% No. 01:19:57.670 --> 01:19:58.993 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:19:58.993 --> 01:19:59.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:02.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:02.550 --> 01:20:04.070 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:20:04.070 --> 01:20:04.570 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:04.570 --> 01:20:05.580 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:05.580 --> 01:20:06.820 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:20:06.820 --> 01:20:07.360 align:middle line:90% No. 01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:08.530 align:middle line:90% No. 01:20:08.530 --> 01:20:10.040 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 01:20:10.040 --> 01:20:11.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:11.020 --> 01:20:12.190 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:12.190 --> 01:20:13.910 align:middle line:90% James T. Welch. 01:20:13.910 --> 01:20:14.410 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:14.410 --> 01:20:14.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:20:14.950 --> 01:20:16.393 align:middle line:90% Have all member been recorded? 01:20:16.393 --> 01:20:21.684 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:20:21.684 --> 01:20:23.620 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 01:20:23.620 --> 01:20:26.380 align:middle line:84% On this matter 31 having voted in the affirmative, 6 01:20:26.380 --> 01:20:28.960 align:middle line:84% in the negative, the matter stands 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.900 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:20:31.900 --> 01:20:33.190 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:20:33.190 --> 01:20:35.260 align:middle line:90% Paper from the House-- 01:20:35.260 --> 01:20:40.750 align:middle line:84% Item 0336-003 containing section two relative to Housing Court 01:20:40.750 --> 01:20:42.832 align:middle line:84% expansion comes from House with the endorsement 01:20:42.832 --> 01:20:44.290 align:middle line:84% that the House has passed this item 01:20:44.290 --> 01:20:47.961 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the reduction of the Governor 123 to 29. 01:20:47.961 --> 01:20:49.960 align:middle line:84% The question before the Senate is shall the item 01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:52.870 align:middle line:84% pass notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:20:52.870 --> 01:20:56.180 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:20:56.180 --> 01:20:57.556 align:middle line:90% Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:20:57.556 --> 01:20:59.930 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through you to the members. 01:20:59.930 --> 01:21:02.672 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, as we continue with override roulette 01:21:02.672 --> 01:21:04.130 align:middle line:84% here in the Senate, this afternoon, 01:21:04.130 --> 01:21:08.360 align:middle line:84% I'm hoping that we can get an explanation of this next veto. 01:21:08.360 --> 01:21:11.360 align:middle line:84% I know that it reduces the amount for Housing Court 01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:15.050 align:middle line:84% expansion that was included in the final General 01:21:15.050 --> 01:21:16.490 align:middle line:90% Appropriations Act. 01:21:16.490 --> 01:21:18.740 align:middle line:84% But it does not appear to eliminate 01:21:18.740 --> 01:21:20.950 align:middle line:90% that entire amount of funding. 01:21:20.950 --> 01:21:23.810 align:middle line:84% I believe there was $1 million in the Conference Committee 01:21:23.810 --> 01:21:25.460 align:middle line:90% Report and the GAA. 01:21:25.460 --> 01:21:28.280 align:middle line:84% This appears to be a lesser amount. 01:21:28.280 --> 01:21:29.780 align:middle line:84% So I'm hoping, Mr. President, we can 01:21:29.780 --> 01:21:32.420 align:middle line:84% understand what exactly is happening here 01:21:32.420 --> 01:21:37.340 align:middle line:84% with this reduction and if the reduction would prevent 01:21:37.340 --> 01:21:40.820 align:middle line:84% the expansion from taking place that was included in the GAA. 01:21:40.820 --> 01:21:42.020 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:21:42.020 --> 01:21:45.020 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka. 01:21:45.020 --> 01:21:46.640 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:50.170 align:middle line:84% This veto would reduce the Housing Court expansion line 01:21:50.170 --> 01:21:58.990 align:middle line:84% item by $250,000 resulting in an appropriation of $750,000. 01:21:58.990 --> 01:22:02.960 align:middle line:84% The Housing Court expansion has been a Senate initiative 01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:06.150 align:middle line:84% and priority for the last few years. 01:22:06.150 --> 01:22:09.800 align:middle line:84% We were successful in obtaining this in the Conference 01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.300 align:middle line:90% Committee Budget. 01:22:11.300 --> 01:22:16.940 align:middle line:84% Prior to getting Housing Court expansion, 2/3 of the state 01:22:16.940 --> 01:22:20.090 align:middle line:90% had access to Housing Court. 01:22:20.090 --> 01:22:24.800 align:middle line:84% A full one third, I think it's 84 communities, did not. 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.530 align:middle line:90% The Cape and Islands did not. 01:22:27.530 --> 01:22:30.470 align:middle line:90% Areas of the Southeast did not. 01:22:30.470 --> 01:22:32.060 align:middle line:90% The Metro West did not. 01:22:32.060 --> 01:22:36.020 align:middle line:84% Certain pockets, even parts of Boston, did not. 01:22:36.020 --> 01:22:40.160 align:middle line:84% Housing Court provides the expertise 01:22:40.160 --> 01:22:43.610 align:middle line:84% and a way for landlords and tenants 01:22:43.610 --> 01:22:47.430 align:middle line:84% to not only resolve housing cases faster, 01:22:47.430 --> 01:22:50.270 align:middle line:84% they have a tendency preservation program 01:22:50.270 --> 01:22:56.240 align:middle line:84% attached to keep people in their homes to prevent homelessness, 01:22:56.240 --> 01:22:58.880 align:middle line:90% to save the Commonwealth money. 01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:03.260 align:middle line:84% In addition to that, it is incredibly cost effective. 01:23:03.260 --> 01:23:07.310 align:middle line:84% It is one of the cheapest district court 01:23:07.310 --> 01:23:09.680 align:middle line:90% ways to dispose of cases. 01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.220 align:middle line:84% Because of the expertise in Housing Court, 01:23:13.220 --> 01:23:15.950 align:middle line:84% more housing cases can be taken up 01:23:15.950 --> 01:23:20.900 align:middle line:84% and disposed at less cost to the Commonwealth's taxpayers. 01:23:20.900 --> 01:23:23.930 align:middle line:84% So there are an incredible number 01:23:23.930 --> 01:23:29.330 align:middle line:84% of reasons why the Senate fought to have Housing Court fully, 01:23:29.330 --> 01:23:32.840 align:middle line:84% and I stress the word fully, across all areas 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:34.160 align:middle line:90% of the Commonwealth. 01:23:34.160 --> 01:23:36.080 align:middle line:84% So it didn't matter what zip code 01:23:36.080 --> 01:23:40.305 align:middle line:84% you lived in, you had access to Housing Court. 01:23:40.305 --> 01:23:43.430 align:middle line:84% And it handles residential housing, 01:23:43.430 --> 01:23:46.250 align:middle line:84% including discrimination and the health 01:23:46.250 --> 01:23:48.940 align:middle line:90% and safety of its tenants. 01:23:48.940 --> 01:23:53.210 align:middle line:84% The Housing Court, also, many municipalities rely upon it. 01:23:53.210 --> 01:23:57.200 align:middle line:84% Because it has jurisdiction over code enforcement actions 01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:02.270 align:middle line:84% and appeals of local zoning board decisions with its 10 01:24:02.270 --> 01:24:05.300 align:middle line:84% judges conducting sessions currently 01:24:05.300 --> 01:24:09.590 align:middle line:84% in 18 different locations every week. 01:24:09.590 --> 01:24:13.490 align:middle line:84% So with the crisis that there's been-- 01:24:13.490 --> 01:24:15.890 align:middle line:84% and there's no sign of it slowing down-- 01:24:15.890 --> 01:24:20.120 align:middle line:84% full expansion with the addition of another five judges 01:24:20.120 --> 01:24:23.300 align:middle line:84% which has been contemplated with the full $1 million 01:24:23.300 --> 01:24:26.840 align:middle line:84% amount, would provide crucial access to all 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.150 align:middle line:90% of the Commonwealth citizens. 01:24:29.150 --> 01:24:35.120 align:middle line:84% Cutting the $250 would weaken the Housing Court's ability 01:24:35.120 --> 01:24:38.990 align:middle line:84% to ensure all of the things that I just talked about. 01:24:38.990 --> 01:24:41.360 align:middle line:84% And again, it would weaken the ability 01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:46.490 align:middle line:84% to provide access to justice to all of our residents 01:24:46.490 --> 01:24:50.780 align:middle line:84% and their right to live in safe living conditions. 01:24:50.780 --> 01:24:55.260 align:middle line:84% I ask that you vote yes and override this veto. 01:24:55.260 --> 01:24:57.338 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 01:24:57.338 --> 01:24:59.278 align:middle line:90% Roll call. 01:24:59.278 --> 01:24:59.778 align:middle line:90% 20? 01:24:59.778 --> 01:25:08.090 align:middle line:90% 01:25:08.090 --> 01:25:09.420 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:25:09.420 --> 01:25:10.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:10.100 --> 01:25:11.900 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:11.900 --> 01:25:13.040 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:13.890 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:13.890 --> 01:25:15.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:16.430 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:25:16.430 --> 01:25:17.090 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:17.090 --> 01:25:18.231 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:18.231 --> 01:25:19.230 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:25:19.230 --> 01:25:20.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:20.350 --> 01:25:21.560 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:22.560 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:23.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:23.060 --> 01:25:24.410 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:24.410 --> 01:25:26.166 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 01:25:26.166 --> 01:25:26.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:26.940 --> 01:25:28.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:29.540 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:25:29.540 --> 01:25:30.270 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:30.270 --> 01:25:31.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:32.390 align:middle line:90% Juliann Cyr. 01:25:32.390 --> 01:25:33.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:33.320 --> 01:25:34.640 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:36.140 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 01:25:36.140 --> 01:25:36.800 align:middle line:90% No. 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:37.950 align:middle line:90% No. 01:25:37.950 --> 01:25:39.125 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 01:25:39.125 --> 01:25:39.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:39.980 --> 01:25:41.420 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:41.420 --> 01:25:42.290 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:25:42.290 --> 01:25:42.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:42.790 --> 01:25:44.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.720 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:46.520 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:47.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:47.710 --> 01:25:48.736 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:25:48.736 --> 01:25:49.490 align:middle line:90% No. 01:25:49.490 --> 01:25:51.190 align:middle line:90% No. 01:25:51.190 --> 01:25:54.180 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:25:54.180 --> 01:25:55.270 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:25:55.270 --> 01:25:56.080 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:56.080 --> 01:25:57.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:57.540 --> 01:25:58.480 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 01:25:58.480 --> 01:25:59.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:25:59.100 --> 01:26:00.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:01.710 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:26:01.710 --> 01:26:02.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:02.510 --> 01:26:03.750 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:03.750 --> 01:26:05.280 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 01:26:05.280 --> 01:26:06.130 align:middle line:90% No. 01:26:06.130 --> 01:26:07.870 align:middle line:90% No. 01:26:07.870 --> 01:26:08.910 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:26:08.910 --> 01:26:09.910 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:09.910 --> 01:26:11.410 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:11.410 --> 01:26:12.430 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 01:26:12.430 --> 01:26:13.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:13.020 --> 01:26:14.470 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:14.470 --> 01:26:15.850 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:26:15.850 --> 01:26:16.810 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:16.810 --> 01:26:18.400 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:18.400 --> 01:26:19.540 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:26:19.540 --> 01:26:20.080 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:20.080 --> 01:26:21.360 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:22.570 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:26:22.570 --> 01:26:23.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:23.130 --> 01:26:24.460 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:24.460 --> 01:26:25.430 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 01:26:25.430 --> 01:26:26.080 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:26.080 --> 01:26:27.430 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:27.430 --> 01:26:28.580 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 01:26:28.580 --> 01:26:29.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:29.450 --> 01:26:30.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:30.370 --> 01:26:31.600 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:32.230 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:32.230 --> 01:26:33.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:33.940 --> 01:26:34.930 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 01:26:34.930 --> 01:26:36.070 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:36.070 --> 01:26:37.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:37.930 --> 01:26:39.070 align:middle line:90% Patrick M. O'Connor. 01:26:39.070 --> 01:26:39.840 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:40.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:40.340 --> 01:26:44.160 align:middle line:90% 01:26:44.160 --> 01:26:45.430 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:26:45.430 --> 01:26:45.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:45.930 --> 01:26:47.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:47.700 --> 01:26:48.720 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:49.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:49.550 --> 01:26:51.360 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:51.360 --> 01:26:52.710 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:26:52.710 --> 01:26:53.605 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:53.605 --> 01:26:54.105 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:26:54.105 --> 01:26:57.280 align:middle line:90% 01:26:57.280 --> 01:26:58.770 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 01:26:58.770 --> 01:26:59.470 align:middle line:90% No. 01:26:59.470 --> 01:27:01.430 align:middle line:90% No. 01:27:01.430 --> 01:27:02.300 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:27:02.300 --> 01:27:02.990 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:02.990 --> 01:27:04.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:04.790 --> 01:27:05.960 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:06.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:06.700 --> 01:27:08.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:08.150 --> 01:27:09.366 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:27:09.366 --> 01:27:10.140 align:middle line:90% No. 01:27:10.140 --> 01:27:11.440 align:middle line:90% No. 01:27:11.440 --> 01:27:12.460 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 01:27:12.460 --> 01:27:13.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:13.370 --> 01:27:14.860 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:14.860 --> 01:27:16.291 align:middle line:90% James T. Welch. 01:27:16.291 --> 01:27:16.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:16.790 --> 01:27:17.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:27:17.540 --> 01:27:18.500 align:middle line:90% Have all members-- 01:27:18.500 --> 01:27:22.340 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:27:22.340 --> 01:27:24.740 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 01:27:24.740 --> 01:27:28.070 align:middle line:84% On this matter 31 having voted in the affirmative, 5 01:27:28.070 --> 01:27:30.140 align:middle line:84% in the negative, the matter stands 01:27:30.140 --> 01:27:32.210 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:27:32.210 --> 01:27:33.890 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:27:33.890 --> 01:27:35.750 align:middle line:90% Paper from the House-- 01:27:35.750 --> 01:27:41.044 align:middle line:84% Item 0511-0270 containing section two relative to census 01:27:41.044 --> 01:27:42.960 align:middle line:84% data technical assistance comes from the House 01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.293 align:middle line:84% with the endorsement that the House has passed this item 01:27:45.293 --> 01:27:48.530 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the reduction of His Excellency the Governor 118 01:27:48.530 --> 01:27:50.990 align:middle line:90% to 34. 01:27:50.990 --> 01:27:53.810 align:middle line:84% The question before the body is shall the item 01:27:53.810 --> 01:27:56.222 align:middle line:84% pass notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:27:56.222 --> 01:27:57.430 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:27:57.430 --> 01:28:00.430 align:middle line:90% 01:28:00.430 --> 01:28:02.756 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 01:28:02.756 --> 01:28:05.690 align:middle line:90% Roll call. 01:28:05.690 --> 01:28:07.494 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:28:07.494 --> 01:28:08.180 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:08.180 --> 01:28:08.680 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.750 align:middle line:90% 01:28:11.750 --> 01:28:13.366 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:28:13.366 --> 01:28:14.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:14.060 --> 01:28:16.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:16.670 --> 01:28:17.670 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:28:17.670 --> 01:28:18.170 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:18.170 --> 01:28:19.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:19.700 --> 01:28:21.050 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:28:21.050 --> 01:28:21.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:21.550 --> 01:28:23.240 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:23.240 --> 01:28:24.290 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:28:24.290 --> 01:28:24.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:24.790 --> 01:28:26.480 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:26.480 --> 01:28:27.860 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 01:28:27.860 --> 01:28:28.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:28.450 --> 01:28:29.840 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:31.130 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:28:31.130 --> 01:28:32.000 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.391 align:middle line:90% yes Julian Cyr. 01:28:34.391 --> 01:28:34.890 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:34.890 --> 01:28:36.270 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:36.270 --> 01:28:37.900 align:middle line:90% Viritao M. deMacedo. 01:28:37.900 --> 01:28:38.580 align:middle line:90% No. 01:28:38.580 --> 01:28:39.890 align:middle line:90% No. 01:28:39.890 --> 01:28:41.330 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 01:28:41.330 --> 01:28:42.230 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:42.230 --> 01:28:43.250 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:43.250 --> 01:28:44.440 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:28:44.440 --> 01:28:45.392 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:45.392 --> 01:28:46.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:46.730 --> 01:28:47.850 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:28:47.850 --> 01:28:48.860 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:48.860 --> 01:28:49.820 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:49.820 --> 01:28:51.030 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:28:51.030 --> 01:28:51.530 align:middle line:90% No. 01:28:51.530 --> 01:28:52.780 align:middle line:90% No. 01:28:52.780 --> 01:28:56.300 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:28:56.300 --> 01:28:57.530 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:28:57.530 --> 01:28:58.380 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:58.380 --> 01:28:59.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:28:59.450 --> 01:29:00.350 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 01:29:00.350 --> 01:29:01.190 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:01.190 --> 01:29:02.570 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:02.570 --> 01:29:03.830 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:29:03.830 --> 01:29:04.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:04.730 --> 01:29:06.120 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:06.120 --> 01:29:07.856 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humason Jr. 01:29:07.856 --> 01:29:08.610 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:08.610 --> 01:29:09.690 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:09.690 --> 01:29:10.790 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:29:10.790 --> 01:29:11.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:11.510 --> 01:29:13.880 align:middle line:90% yes John F. Keenan. 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:14.590 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:14.590 --> 01:29:15.890 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:15.890 --> 01:29:16.710 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:29:16.710 --> 01:29:17.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:17.350 --> 01:29:19.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:19.130 --> 01:29:20.190 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:29:20.190 --> 01:29:21.030 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:21.030 --> 01:29:22.400 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:22.400 --> 01:29:23.330 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:29:23.330 --> 01:29:24.250 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:24.250 --> 01:29:25.820 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:25.820 --> 01:29:26.810 align:middle line:90% Joan B. Lovely. 01:29:26.810 --> 01:29:27.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:27.540 --> 01:29:30.260 align:middle line:90% yes Thomas M. McGee. 01:29:30.260 --> 01:29:31.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:32.000 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.120 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:29:33.120 --> 01:29:33.810 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:33.810 --> 01:29:36.773 align:middle line:90% yes Michael L. Moore. 01:29:36.773 --> 01:29:37.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:37.620 --> 01:29:38.750 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:38.750 --> 01:29:39.870 align:middle line:90% Patrick M. O'Connor. 01:29:39.870 --> 01:29:40.610 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:40.610 --> 01:29:42.860 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:42.860 --> 01:29:44.171 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:29:44.171 --> 01:29:44.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:44.670 --> 01:29:46.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:46.340 --> 01:29:47.780 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:29:47.780 --> 01:29:48.500 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:48.500 --> 01:29:49.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:51.020 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:29:51.020 --> 01:29:51.740 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:51.740 --> 01:29:53.030 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:53.030 --> 01:29:54.110 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 01:29:54.110 --> 01:29:55.030 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:55.030 --> 01:29:56.340 align:middle line:90% No. 01:29:56.340 --> 01:29:57.563 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:29:57.563 --> 01:29:58.290 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:58.290 --> 01:29:59.640 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:00.920 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:01.580 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:01.580 --> 01:30:02.515 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:02.515 --> 01:30:04.430 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:30:04.430 --> 01:30:04.930 align:middle line:90% No. 01:30:04.930 --> 01:30:05.960 align:middle line:90% No. 01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:07.360 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 01:30:07.360 --> 01:30:08.120 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:08.120 --> 01:30:09.376 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:09.376 --> 01:30:11.200 align:middle line:90% And James T. Welch. 01:30:11.200 --> 01:30:12.140 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:12.140 --> 01:30:12.740 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:30:12.740 --> 01:30:13.732 align:middle line:90% Have all members been-- 01:30:13.732 --> 01:30:19.690 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:30:19.690 --> 01:30:22.510 align:middle line:84% On this matter, 30 having voted in the affirmative, 6 01:30:22.510 --> 01:30:24.470 align:middle line:84% in the negative, the matter stands 01:30:24.470 --> 01:30:26.470 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:30:26.470 --> 01:30:28.540 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:30:28.540 --> 01:30:29.690 align:middle line:90% Paper from the House-- 01:30:29.690 --> 01:30:33.640 align:middle line:84% Item 0610-0050 containing section two 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.220 align:middle line:84% relative to the Alcoholic Beverages Control Commission 01:30:36.220 --> 01:30:37.930 align:middle line:84% comes from the House with the endorsement 01:30:37.930 --> 01:30:39.600 align:middle line:84% that the House has passed this item not 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.433 align:middle line:84% withstanding the reduction of His Excellency 01:30:41.433 --> 01:30:43.840 align:middle line:90% the Governor 116 to 36. 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:45.800 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:47.380 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through you to the members. 01:30:47.380 --> 01:30:49.713 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I'm hoping we can get a brief explanation 01:30:49.713 --> 01:30:52.180 align:middle line:84% of this particular item and the consequences 01:30:52.180 --> 01:30:53.510 align:middle line:90% of not overriding it. 01:30:53.510 --> 01:30:56.150 align:middle line:90% 01:30:56.150 --> 01:30:59.220 align:middle line:84% The Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. Spilka. 01:30:59.220 --> 01:31:10.110 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:31:10.110 --> 01:31:12.585 align:middle line:90% 01:31:12.585 --> 01:31:14.070 align:middle line:90% Just one second. 01:31:14.070 --> 01:31:15.060 align:middle line:90% Did-- 01:31:15.060 --> 01:31:20.010 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:31:20.010 --> 01:31:22.975 align:middle line:90% 01:31:22.975 --> 01:31:23.475 align:middle line:90% OK. 01:31:23.475 --> 01:31:26.950 align:middle line:90% 01:31:26.950 --> 01:31:27.910 align:middle line:90% OK. 01:31:27.910 --> 01:31:31.480 align:middle line:84% This veto would eliminate $50,000 from the Alcohol 01:31:31.480 --> 01:31:34.420 align:middle line:90% Beverages Control Commission. 01:31:34.420 --> 01:31:39.430 align:middle line:84% ABCC account provides funds for the manufacturing, importation, 01:31:39.430 --> 01:31:42.580 align:middle line:84% storage, and sale of all alcoholic beverages 01:31:42.580 --> 01:31:43.810 align:middle line:90% in the state. 01:31:43.810 --> 01:31:49.120 align:middle line:84% It verifies and processes more than 32,000 license 01:31:49.120 --> 01:31:54.700 align:middle line:84% transactions a year with a team of just 26 employees. 01:31:54.700 --> 01:32:00.980 align:middle line:84% And this veto would likely force layoffs to even further give 01:32:00.980 --> 01:32:04.660 align:middle line:84% a stronger intense case workload. 01:32:04.660 --> 01:32:11.680 align:middle line:84% ABCC has one of the lowest licensures to licensees ratio 01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:13.810 align:middle line:90% in the country now. 01:32:13.810 --> 01:32:17.680 align:middle line:84% Additional support is imperative for the Alcoholic Beverage 01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:20.050 align:middle line:84% Control Commission in order to help 01:32:20.050 --> 01:32:22.690 align:middle line:84% it to run smoothly and fulfill its mission. 01:32:22.690 --> 01:32:26.260 align:middle line:84% Therefore, I ask that you overturn this veto. 01:32:26.260 --> 01:32:28.253 align:middle line:90% The Clerk will call the roll. 01:32:28.253 --> 01:32:29.199 align:middle line:90% Roll call. 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:33.460 align:middle line:90% 01:32:33.460 --> 01:32:34.470 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:32:34.470 --> 01:32:35.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:35.440 --> 01:32:36.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:36.930 --> 01:32:38.240 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:32:38.240 --> 01:32:39.010 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:39.010 --> 01:32:40.180 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:40.180 --> 01:32:41.190 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:32:41.190 --> 01:32:41.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:41.790 --> 01:32:43.040 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:43.040 --> 01:32:44.300 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:32:44.300 --> 01:32:45.250 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:45.250 --> 01:32:46.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:46.620 --> 01:32:47.680 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:48.190 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:48.190 --> 01:32:49.360 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:51.940 align:middle line:90% Sonia Chang-Diaz. 01:32:51.940 --> 01:32:52.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:52.440 --> 01:32:54.010 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:54.010 --> 01:32:55.530 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:32:55.530 --> 01:32:56.070 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:56.070 --> 01:32:57.210 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:57.210 --> 01:32:57.990 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 01:32:57.990 --> 01:32:58.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:58.720 --> 01:32:59.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:32:59.980 --> 01:33:01.540 align:middle line:90% Viriato M. deMacedo. 01:33:01.540 --> 01:33:02.230 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:02.230 --> 01:33:03.790 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:03.790 --> 01:33:05.200 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico. 01:33:05.200 --> 01:33:05.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:05.950 --> 01:33:07.060 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:07.060 --> 01:33:08.290 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:33:08.290 --> 01:33:09.430 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:09.430 --> 01:33:10.690 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:10.690 --> 01:33:11.850 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:33:11.850 --> 01:33:12.510 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:12.510 --> 01:33:13.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:13.700 --> 01:33:14.820 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:33:14.820 --> 01:33:15.460 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:15.460 --> 01:33:16.720 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.160 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:33:20.160 --> 01:33:21.206 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:33:21.206 --> 01:33:22.180 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:22.180 --> 01:33:23.910 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:23.910 --> 01:33:24.740 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi. 01:33:24.740 --> 01:33:25.240 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:25.240 --> 01:33:26.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:26.670 --> 01:33:27.640 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:28.600 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:29.860 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:29.860 --> 01:33:31.340 align:middle line:90% Donald F. Humaon Jr. 01:33:31.340 --> 01:33:31.940 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:31.940 --> 01:33:33.160 align:middle line:90% No. 01:33:33.160 --> 01:33:34.330 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:33:34.330 --> 01:33:35.170 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:35.170 --> 01:33:36.520 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:37.510 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 01:33:37.510 --> 01:33:38.150 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:38.150 --> 01:33:39.840 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:40.960 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:41.460 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:41.460 --> 01:33:42.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:42.940 --> 01:33:44.040 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:33:44.040 --> 01:33:44.650 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:44.650 --> 01:33:46.090 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:46.090 --> 01:33:47.220 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:33:47.220 --> 01:33:47.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:47.980 --> 01:33:50.390 align:middle line:90% yes Joan B. Lovely. 01:33:50.390 --> 01:33:51.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:51.340 --> 01:33:53.600 align:middle line:90% yes Thomas M. McGee. 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:54.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:54.370 --> 01:33:55.690 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:55.690 --> 01:33:56.490 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:33:56.490 --> 01:33:57.400 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:57.400 --> 01:33:58.780 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:33:58.780 --> 01:33:59.790 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 01:33:59.790 --> 01:34:00.790 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:00.790 --> 01:34:02.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:02.020 --> 01:34:03.140 align:middle line:90% Patrick M. O'Connor. 01:34:03.140 --> 01:34:03.870 align:middle line:90% No. 01:34:03.870 --> 01:34:05.980 align:middle line:90% No. 01:34:05.980 --> 01:34:07.430 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:34:07.430 --> 01:34:07.930 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:07.930 --> 01:34:09.580 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:09.580 --> 01:34:10.700 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:34:10.700 --> 01:34:11.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:11.710 --> 01:34:13.270 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:13.270 --> 01:34:14.580 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:34:14.580 --> 01:34:15.430 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:15.430 --> 01:34:17.800 align:middle line:90% yes Richard J. Ross. 01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:18.330 align:middle line:90% No. 01:34:18.330 --> 01:34:19.730 align:middle line:90% No. 01:34:19.730 --> 01:34:20.670 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:34:20.670 --> 01:34:21.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:21.620 --> 01:34:22.970 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:22.970 --> 01:34:23.940 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:34:23.940 --> 01:34:24.770 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:24.770 --> 01:34:25.640 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:27.033 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:34:27.033 --> 01:34:27.940 align:middle line:90% No. 01:34:27.940 --> 01:34:30.320 align:middle line:90% no Walter F. Timilty. 01:34:30.320 --> 01:34:30.970 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:30.970 --> 01:34:33.810 align:middle line:90% yes James T. Welch. 01:34:33.810 --> 01:34:34.310 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:34.310 --> 01:34:35.265 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:34:35.265 --> 01:34:35.765 align:middle line:90% Have all-- 01:34:35.765 --> 01:34:47.890 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:34:47.890 --> 01:34:50.770 align:middle line:84% On this matter, 30 having voted in the affirmative, 6 01:34:50.770 --> 01:34:52.810 align:middle line:84% in the negative, the matter stands 01:34:52.810 --> 01:34:54.940 align:middle line:84% notwithstanding the objections of His Excellency 01:34:54.940 --> 01:34:56.620 align:middle line:90% the Governor to the contrary. 01:34:56.620 --> 01:34:57.970 align:middle line:90% Paper from the House-- 01:34:57.970 --> 01:35:01.690 align:middle line:84% Item 0640-0300 containing section two 01:35:01.690 --> 01:35:03.792 align:middle line:84% relative to the Massachusetts Cultural Council 01:35:03.792 --> 01:35:05.500 align:middle line:84% comes from the House with the endorsement 01:35:05.500 --> 01:35:08.740 align:middle line:84% that this item has passed notwithstanding the reduction 01:35:08.740 --> 01:35:12.100 align:middle line:84% in objections of His Excellency the Governor 138 to 14. 01:35:12.100 --> 01:35:13.922 align:middle line:90% Senator from Essex, Mr. Tarr. 01:35:13.922 --> 01:35:16.130 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Mr. President, and through to the members. 01:35:16.130 --> 01:35:18.088 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, I know that this particular item 01:35:18.088 --> 01:35:21.250 align:middle line:84% is one of great interest to many members throughout the Chamber. 01:35:21.250 --> 01:35:24.460 align:middle line:84% And I'm hoping that we can get an explanation of what 01:35:24.460 --> 01:35:26.080 align:middle line:90% exactly is going on with it. 01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:28.180 align:middle line:84% in terms of the amount of the proposed reduction 01:35:28.180 --> 01:35:30.619 align:middle line:84% and the impact if it is not overridden. 01:35:30.619 --> 01:35:31.660 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:35:31.660 --> 01:35:34.480 align:middle line:84% Senator from Middlesex and Norfolk, Ms. 01:35:34.480 --> 01:35:35.920 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. President. 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:41.200 align:middle line:84% This veto would cut $1.9 million for the Massachusetts Cultural 01:35:41.200 --> 01:35:45.850 align:middle line:84% Council, including 25,000 for the Springfield Central 01:35:45.850 --> 01:35:48.460 align:middle line:90% Cultural Council District. 01:35:48.460 --> 01:35:51.430 align:middle line:84% Cutting the Mass Cultural Council by almost $2 million 01:35:51.430 --> 01:35:57.010 align:middle line:84% would severely diminish fundamental grant programs 01:35:57.010 --> 01:36:00.580 align:middle line:84% and close arts education opportunities 01:36:00.580 --> 01:36:05.200 align:middle line:84% for children and schools and youth programs 01:36:05.200 --> 01:36:06.850 align:middle line:90% throughout the Commonwealth. 01:36:06.850 --> 01:36:10.270 align:middle line:84% As the gentleman from Gloucester the Minority Leader 01:36:10.270 --> 01:36:15.490 align:middle line:84% acknowledged, this has been a priority of the Senate. 01:36:15.490 --> 01:36:19.810 align:middle line:84% This is a very important line item for the Senate. 01:36:19.810 --> 01:36:23.980 align:middle line:84% The funding provided for the Springfield Central Cultural 01:36:23.980 --> 01:36:27.010 align:middle line:84% District will support the city's initiative 01:36:27.010 --> 01:36:31.510 align:middle line:84% to bring arts and culture to downtown Springfield. 01:36:31.510 --> 01:36:34.360 align:middle line:84% We are very fortunate to have and live 01:36:34.360 --> 01:36:39.700 align:middle line:84% in a state that is so rich in arts and culture 01:36:39.700 --> 01:36:42.910 align:middle line:84% compared to no other in the country. 01:36:42.910 --> 01:36:44.320 align:middle line:90% And it is our job. 01:36:44.320 --> 01:36:45.610 align:middle line:90% It creates jobs. 01:36:45.610 --> 01:36:48.610 align:middle line:84% The Cultural Council helps support programs 01:36:48.610 --> 01:36:51.670 align:middle line:84% that create arts and cultural programs that 01:36:51.670 --> 01:36:55.180 align:middle line:84% actually help to create jobs across the state. 01:36:55.180 --> 01:36:59.350 align:middle line:84% It's our job to continue to enhance communities 01:36:59.350 --> 01:37:02.390 align:middle line:84% with the arts, sciences, and humanities. 01:37:02.390 --> 01:37:06.340 align:middle line:84% And I ask that you vote to overturn this veto. 01:37:06.340 --> 01:37:09.160 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:37:09.160 --> 01:37:11.800 align:middle line:84% The Clerk will call the roll beginning with the Chair. 01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.590 align:middle line:90% 01:37:15.590 --> 01:37:16.950 align:middle line:90% Stanley C. Rosenberg. 01:37:16.950 --> 01:37:17.950 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:17.950 --> 01:37:18.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:18.450 --> 01:37:22.320 align:middle line:90% 01:37:22.320 --> 01:37:24.224 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Barrett. 01:37:24.224 --> 01:37:25.130 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:25.130 --> 01:37:27.120 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:28.340 align:middle line:90% Joseph A. Boncore. 01:37:28.340 --> 01:37:29.220 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:29.220 --> 01:37:30.600 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:31.720 align:middle line:90% Michael D. Brady. 01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:32.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:32.350 --> 01:37:34.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:34.320 --> 01:37:35.580 align:middle line:90% William N. Brownsberger. 01:37:35.580 --> 01:37:36.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:36.540 --> 01:37:37.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:38.895 align:middle line:90% Harriette L. Chandler. 01:37:38.895 --> 01:37:39.760 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:41.440 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:42.355 align:middle line:90% Sonya Chang-Diaz. 01:37:42.355 --> 01:37:43.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:43.320 --> 01:37:44.890 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:44.890 --> 01:37:46.210 align:middle line:90% Cynthia Stone Creem. 01:37:46.210 --> 01:37:46.920 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:48.520 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:49.250 align:middle line:90% Julian Cyr. 01:37:49.250 --> 01:37:50.110 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:50.110 --> 01:37:51.580 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:51.580 --> 01:37:53.716 align:middle line:90% Virato M. deMacedo. 01:37:53.716 --> 01:37:54.670 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:54.670 --> 01:37:56.350 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:56.350 --> 01:37:57.730 align:middle line:90% Sal N. DiDomenico 01:37:57.730 --> 01:37:58.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:58.540 --> 01:37:59.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:37:59.710 --> 01:38:00.790 align:middle line:90% Eileen M. Donoghue. 01:38:00.790 --> 01:38:01.293 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:01.293 --> 01:38:03.030 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:03.030 --> 01:38:04.510 align:middle line:90% James B. Eldridge. 01:38:04.510 --> 01:38:05.290 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:05.290 --> 01:38:06.850 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:06.850 --> 01:38:07.940 align:middle line:90% Ryan C. Fattman. 01:38:07.940 --> 01:38:09.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:09.620 --> 01:38:11.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:11.620 --> 01:38:12.510 align:middle line:90% Linda Dorcena Forry. 01:38:12.510 --> 01:38:15.250 align:middle line:90% 01:38:15.250 --> 01:38:16.240 align:middle line:90% Cindy F. Friedman. 01:38:16.240 --> 01:38:17.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:17.020 --> 01:38:18.530 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:18.530 --> 01:38:19.430 align:middle line:90% Anne M. Gobi 01:38:19.430 --> 01:38:20.290 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:20.290 --> 01:38:21.640 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:23.313 align:middle line:90% Adam G. Hinds. 01:38:23.313 --> 01:38:24.160 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:26.980 align:middle line:90% yes Donald F. Humason Jr. 01:38:26.980 --> 01:38:27.890 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:27.890 --> 01:38:29.710 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:29.710 --> 01:38:30.880 align:middle line:90% Patricia D. Jehlen. 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:31.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:31.620 --> 01:38:32.120 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:32.120 --> 01:38:35.160 align:middle line:90% 01:38:35.160 --> 01:38:36.090 align:middle line:90% John F. Keenan. 01:38:36.090 --> 01:38:36.720 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:38.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:38.610 --> 01:38:39.873 align:middle line:90% Eric P. Lesser. 01:38:39.873 --> 01:38:40.620 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:40.620 --> 01:38:42.000 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:43.020 align:middle line:90% Jason M. Lewis. 01:38:43.020 --> 01:38:43.740 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:43.740 --> 01:38:45.230 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:45.230 --> 01:38:46.380 align:middle line:90% Barbara A. L'Italien. 01:38:46.380 --> 01:38:47.220 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:47.220 --> 01:38:48.050 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:48.050 --> 01:38:48.550 align:middle line:90% Joan. 01:38:48.550 --> 01:38:49.440 align:middle line:90% B. Lovely. 01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:50.250 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:50.250 --> 01:38:51.450 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:51.450 --> 01:38:52.490 align:middle line:90% Thomas M. McGee. 01:38:52.490 --> 01:38:53.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:53.320 --> 01:38:54.690 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:54.690 --> 01:38:55.800 align:middle line:90% Mark C. Montigny. 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:56.540 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:56.540 --> 01:38:57.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:38:57.980 --> 01:38:59.020 align:middle line:90% Michael L. Moore. 01:38:59.020 --> 01:39:00.000 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:01.320 --> 01:39:03.744 align:middle line:90% Patrick M O'Connor. 01:39:03.744 --> 01:39:04.780 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:04.780 --> 01:39:06.370 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:06.370 --> 01:39:07.825 align:middle line:90% Kathleen O'Connor Ives. 01:39:07.825 --> 01:39:08.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:08.610 --> 01:39:09.770 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:09.770 --> 01:39:11.260 align:middle line:90% Marc R. Pacheco. 01:39:11.260 --> 01:39:11.980 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:11.980 --> 01:39:13.240 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:13.240 --> 01:39:14.640 align:middle line:90% Michael J. Rodrigues. 01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:15.340 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:15.340 --> 01:39:17.020 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:17.020 --> 01:39:18.460 align:middle line:90% Richard J. Ross. 01:39:18.460 --> 01:39:19.160 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:19.160 --> 01:39:20.730 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:20.730 --> 01:39:21.610 align:middle line:90% Michael F. Rush. 01:39:21.610 --> 01:39:22.210 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:22.210 --> 01:39:23.700 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:23.700 --> 01:39:24.690 align:middle line:90% Karen E. Spilka. 01:39:24.690 --> 01:39:25.550 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:25.550 --> 01:39:26.613 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:26.613 --> 01:39:28.580 align:middle line:90% Bruce E. Tarr. 01:39:28.580 --> 01:39:29.080 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:29.080 --> 01:39:31.100 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:31.100 --> 01:39:32.170 align:middle line:90% Walter F. Timilty. 01:39:32.170 --> 01:39:32.940 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:32.940 --> 01:39:34.310 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:34.310 --> 01:39:35.700 align:middle line:90% And James T. Welch. 01:39:35.700 --> 01:39:36.410 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:36.410 --> 01:39:37.610 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:39:37.610 --> 01:39:38.210 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:39:38.210 --> 01:39:39.110 align:middle line:90% --been recorded. 01:39:39.110 --> 01:39:43.610 align:middle line:90% [AUDIO OUT] 01:39:43.610 --> 01:39:45.110 align:middle line:90% 37 [INAUDIBLE] 01:39:45.110 --> 01:39:46.960 align:middle line:90% On this matter--