WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.810 align:middle line:90% 00:00:12.810 --> 00:00:13.830 align:middle line:90% You can all hear me? 00:00:13.830 --> 00:00:16.930 align:middle line:90% 00:00:16.930 --> 00:00:17.430 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:00:17.430 --> 00:00:22.260 align:middle line:84% We're going to call this Special Joint Committee 00:00:22.260 --> 00:00:25.920 align:middle line:90% on Redistricting to order. 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:31.770 align:middle line:84% I want to thank all of the attendants, 00:00:31.770 --> 00:00:33.450 align:middle line:84% and I'd ask everybody if they could 00:00:33.450 --> 00:00:40.090 align:middle line:84% to mute their devices or their laptops 00:00:40.090 --> 00:00:42.420 align:middle line:90% so there is no confusion. 00:00:42.420 --> 00:00:44.820 align:middle line:84% At this point in time, I'd like to introduce my colleague 00:00:44.820 --> 00:00:47.850 align:middle line:84% and Co-Chair, Senator Brownsberger, 00:00:47.850 --> 00:00:51.840 align:middle line:84% for a few remarks and so he can introduce the senators who are 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:58.230 align:middle line:84% on this very prestigious and august committee. 00:00:58.230 --> 00:00:59.310 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:00:59.310 --> 00:01:02.130 align:middle line:84% And it's a privilege to serve with you, 00:01:02.130 --> 00:01:05.632 align:middle line:84% and it is a privilege to serve with my Senate Vice Chair Anne 00:01:05.632 --> 00:01:07.530 align:middle line:90% Gobi. 00:01:07.530 --> 00:01:12.630 align:middle line:90% And we also have Senator Hinds. 00:01:12.630 --> 00:01:16.020 align:middle line:84% And are there other senators that I can't see? 00:01:16.020 --> 00:01:19.010 align:middle line:90% 00:01:19.010 --> 00:01:22.280 align:middle line:84% Senator Hinds and Gobi are the members from the Senate 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.720 align:middle line:84% this evening, and I want to thank you, 00:01:24.720 --> 00:01:27.980 align:middle line:84% Mr. Chair, for the collaboration we have going together here. 00:01:27.980 --> 00:01:32.040 align:middle line:84% And I thank all those who are planning to testify tonight, 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.480 align:middle line:84% including our respective Representative, Katherine 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.070 align:middle line:90% Clark. 00:01:37.070 --> 00:01:38.510 align:middle line:90% Back to you. 00:01:38.510 --> 00:01:41.300 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Senator. 00:01:41.300 --> 00:01:43.520 align:middle line:84% I'd also like to introduce some of my colleagues 00:01:43.520 --> 00:01:45.560 align:middle line:84% that are joining us here right now. 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.640 align:middle line:84% My Vice Chair, the gentleman from Lawrence, Marcos Devers 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.180 align:middle line:84% is here, as well as the gentlelady from Provincetown, 00:01:53.180 --> 00:01:56.420 align:middle line:84% Sarah Peake, the gentleman from Lawrence, 00:01:56.420 --> 00:01:59.930 align:middle line:84% Frank Moran, the gentleman from Mattapoisett, 00:01:59.930 --> 00:02:02.600 align:middle line:84% Bill Strauss, the gentleman from Worcester, 00:02:02.600 --> 00:02:06.410 align:middle line:84% John Mahoney, the gentlelady from Pittsfield, 00:02:06.410 --> 00:02:10.220 align:middle line:84% Tricia Farley-Bouvier, the gentlewoman from Boston, 00:02:10.220 --> 00:02:13.550 align:middle line:84% Chynah Tyler, the gentleman from Haverhill, 00:02:13.550 --> 00:02:17.810 align:middle line:84% Andy Vargas, the gentleman from Barnstable, Kipp Diggs. 00:02:17.810 --> 00:02:22.040 align:middle line:84% A ranking member of the House Committee 00:02:22.040 --> 00:02:24.890 align:middle line:84% on Redistricting, Representative Paul Frost from Auburn, 00:02:24.890 --> 00:02:29.290 align:middle line:84% and representative Tim Ferguson from [INAUDIBLE].. 00:02:29.290 --> 00:02:32.540 align:middle line:84% I think that covers everybody that's here, 00:02:32.540 --> 00:02:35.360 align:middle line:84% and as the members come in, I will introduce them. 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.410 align:middle line:84% I know a few of them are over at some oversight hearings, 00:02:39.410 --> 00:02:43.970 align:middle line:84% and I know that they're running a little late. 00:02:43.970 --> 00:02:45.470 align:middle line:84% Next, I'd like to introduce-- it's 00:02:45.470 --> 00:02:48.650 align:middle line:84% been customary in the past when we do redistricting 00:02:48.650 --> 00:02:52.730 align:middle line:84% that we have a member of the House 00:02:52.730 --> 00:02:55.250 align:middle line:84% bring greetings from the district 00:02:55.250 --> 00:03:00.050 align:middle line:84% that we are having this Zoom hearing in, 00:03:00.050 --> 00:03:02.570 align:middle line:90% which is District 5. 00:03:02.570 --> 00:03:05.690 align:middle line:84% I'd like to introduce the gentleman from Stoneham. 00:03:05.690 --> 00:03:10.460 align:middle line:84% He is the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee 00:03:10.460 --> 00:03:14.090 align:middle line:84% to bring us greetings from the 5th, Representative Michael 00:03:14.090 --> 00:03:14.975 align:middle line:90% Seamus Day. 00:03:14.975 --> 00:03:17.670 align:middle line:90% 00:03:17.670 --> 00:03:19.080 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. Leader. 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.060 align:middle line:84% I'm honored to greet you all here tonight, 00:03:21.060 --> 00:03:25.050 align:middle line:84% welcome you virtually to the 5th Congressional District 00:03:25.050 --> 00:03:28.290 align:middle line:84% for this hearing convened by the Special Joint Committee 00:03:28.290 --> 00:03:29.640 align:middle line:90% on Redistricting. 00:03:29.640 --> 00:03:31.740 align:middle line:84% As Leader Moran just said, my name is Michael Day. 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:34.830 align:middle line:84% I am the state representative for the 31st Middlesex 00:03:34.830 --> 00:03:38.490 align:middle line:84% District, which comprises the great towns of Stoneham 00:03:38.490 --> 00:03:39.763 align:middle line:90% and Winchester. 00:03:39.763 --> 00:03:42.180 align:middle line:84% I've got the honor of providing the Special Committee with 00:03:42.180 --> 00:03:45.240 align:middle line:84% an introduction to and a brief overview-- and brief overview, 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:45.990 align:middle line:90% I'll say-- 00:03:45.990 --> 00:03:48.570 align:middle line:84% of the historic Fighting 5th, which 00:03:48.570 --> 00:03:51.120 align:middle line:84% I believe Chairman Moran and Chairman Brownsberger would 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.340 align:middle line:84% both agree is the standard by which 00:03:53.340 --> 00:03:56.900 align:middle line:84% all other congressional districts measure themselves. 00:03:56.900 --> 00:03:59.210 align:middle line:84% As all of our districts did, the boundaries 00:03:59.210 --> 00:04:01.517 align:middle line:84% of the 5th Congressional shifted as a result 00:04:01.517 --> 00:04:03.350 align:middle line:84% of the last redistricting when Massachusetts 00:04:03.350 --> 00:04:06.080 align:middle line:90% lost a congressional seat. 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:07.550 align:middle line:84% The district geographically shifted 00:04:07.550 --> 00:04:11.060 align:middle line:84% from a mostly northwest and central Middlesex 00:04:11.060 --> 00:04:13.250 align:middle line:84% to more of a southern, southeastern Middlesex 00:04:13.250 --> 00:04:15.800 align:middle line:84% district, incorporating much of what was previously 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.320 align:middle line:84% the 7th Congressional with a little bit of Suffolk 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:21.000 align:middle line:84% and Worcester sprinkled in for some flavor there. 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.993 align:middle line:84% I'm very happy that we are projected 00:04:22.993 --> 00:04:25.160 align:middle line:84% to be keeping our nine congressional seats this time 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.280 align:middle line:84% around, and it's no surprise that the 5th accounted 00:04:28.280 --> 00:04:31.970 align:middle line:84% for 12% of the population growth in Massachusetts 00:04:31.970 --> 00:04:34.370 align:middle line:84% over the past decade despite the fact 00:04:34.370 --> 00:04:37.280 align:middle line:84% that we only occupy about 10% of the Commonwealth. 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:38.810 align:middle line:84% So I think we can all take a victory 00:04:38.810 --> 00:04:41.720 align:middle line:84% lap for the retention of the nine seats in Massachusetts 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.730 align:middle line:84% because of how attractive this district is. 00:04:44.730 --> 00:04:49.020 align:middle line:84% The current Mass 5th comprises the following municipalities. 00:04:49.020 --> 00:04:53.100 align:middle line:84% In Middlesex County, we've got Arlington, Ashland, Chairman 00:04:53.100 --> 00:04:56.790 align:middle line:84% Brownsberger's own Belmont, parts of Cambridge, 00:04:56.790 --> 00:04:59.940 align:middle line:84% all of Framingham, Holliston, Lexington, 00:04:59.940 --> 00:05:04.290 align:middle line:84% Lincoln, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Natick, Sherborn, 00:05:04.290 --> 00:05:08.670 align:middle line:84% Stoneham, Sudbury, all of Waltham, Watertown, Wayland, 00:05:08.670 --> 00:05:12.330 align:middle line:84% Weston, Winchester, and Woburn In Suffolk County, 00:05:12.330 --> 00:05:14.940 align:middle line:84% we claim Revere and Winthrop as our own. 00:05:14.940 --> 00:05:18.670 align:middle line:84% And checking in from Worcester County is Southborough. 00:05:18.670 --> 00:05:21.790 align:middle line:84% The district, honorable members of this committee, 00:05:21.790 --> 00:05:25.030 align:middle line:84% is renowned for its diversity of industry, landscape, 00:05:25.030 --> 00:05:26.980 align:middle line:90% and historic features. 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:30.490 align:middle line:84% We boast America's first public beach in Revere, 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.165 align:middle line:84% the battlefields of Lexington and Concord, 00:05:33.165 --> 00:05:35.290 align:middle line:84% and the headquarters of the world's most innovative 00:05:35.290 --> 00:05:39.250 align:middle line:84% biotech firms, which are located in Cambridge's Kendall Square. 00:05:39.250 --> 00:05:42.220 align:middle line:84% Incidentally, Cambridge Square was almost home to NASA, 00:05:42.220 --> 00:05:44.560 align:middle line:84% until Houston got a little full of themselves 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.840 align:middle line:84% and used President Johnson to claim it for themselves. 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:50.600 align:middle line:84% We are the home to Hanscom Air Force Base, 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.140 align:middle line:84% the estate farms of Sherborn, the concrete peninsula 00:05:54.140 --> 00:05:57.260 align:middle line:84% of Winthrop, and the crown jewel of the commonwealth parks 00:05:57.260 --> 00:06:00.740 align:middle line:84% and open spaces, the Middlesex Fells Reservation, 00:06:00.740 --> 00:06:04.400 align:middle line:84% which is also home to the mighty Stone Zoo. 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:07.220 align:middle line:84% Now, I know I'm not telling you all anything new. 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:09.170 align:middle line:84% You all recognize this, but I do think 00:06:09.170 --> 00:06:11.600 align:middle line:84% it bears stating that we are known 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:13.910 align:middle line:84% in most quarters of the world as the most 00:06:13.910 --> 00:06:18.020 align:middle line:84% educated congressional district in the United States. 00:06:18.020 --> 00:06:19.850 align:middle line:84% We are the home of the incredible Perkins 00:06:19.850 --> 00:06:22.970 align:middle line:84% School for the Blind and among many other institutions 00:06:22.970 --> 00:06:23.990 align:middle line:90% of higher learning-- 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:28.400 align:middle line:84% Framingham State, Brandeis University, Bentley University, 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:30.860 align:middle line:90% and Tufts University. 00:06:30.860 --> 00:06:35.070 align:middle line:84% And oh, yeah, Leader Moran, a little place known as Harvard. 00:06:35.070 --> 00:06:38.100 align:middle line:84% But lest you think members of this august committee, 00:06:38.100 --> 00:06:40.980 align:middle line:84% that we only excel in historical attractions, 00:06:40.980 --> 00:06:44.070 align:middle line:84% next generation industry, or having the top brains 00:06:44.070 --> 00:06:46.470 align:middle line:84% in the world and the most unparalleled educational 00:06:46.470 --> 00:06:49.440 align:middle line:84% institutions and opportunities in the world, 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:52.470 align:middle line:84% allow me to wrap up this little introduction by highlighting 00:06:52.470 --> 00:06:55.440 align:middle line:84% some of the political leaders this congressional district has 00:06:55.440 --> 00:06:57.370 align:middle line:90% given to our country. 00:06:57.370 --> 00:06:59.800 align:middle line:84% The 5th Congressional District has produced, 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.400 align:middle line:84% in Congress alone, three future United States senators, 00:07:03.400 --> 00:07:06.310 align:middle line:84% including our current Junior Senator Ed Markey and his 00:07:06.310 --> 00:07:09.490 align:middle line:84% sneakers, one speaker of the house, 00:07:09.490 --> 00:07:14.050 align:middle line:84% two husband-wife congressional duos, and one minister-- 00:07:14.050 --> 00:07:16.720 align:middle line:84% United States Minister to the Qing Empire, which 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.410 align:middle line:90% was the last dynasty of China. 00:07:19.410 --> 00:07:22.950 align:middle line:84% We claim the first Congresswoman from Massachusetts, 00:07:22.950 --> 00:07:27.984 align:middle line:84% Eleanor Nourse Rogers, who served from 1925 until 1960, 00:07:27.984 --> 00:07:30.690 align:middle line:84% four future governors under the Commonwealth, 00:07:30.690 --> 00:07:33.300 align:middle line:84% and the current vise speaker of the United States 00:07:33.300 --> 00:07:36.000 align:middle line:84% House of Representatives, which is the number four 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.820 align:middle line:84% position in the House leadership, our Congresswoman 00:07:38.820 --> 00:07:40.740 align:middle line:90% Katherine Clark. 00:07:40.740 --> 00:07:42.900 align:middle line:84% Congresswoman Clark, and here, I'm 00:07:42.900 --> 00:07:44.550 align:middle line:84% going to read this part to make sure I 00:07:44.550 --> 00:07:47.900 align:middle line:84% get every part of this abbreviated biography correct. 00:07:47.900 --> 00:07:50.510 align:middle line:84% Congresswoman Clark won position-- won election 00:07:50.510 --> 00:07:52.850 align:middle line:84% to the position of the Vice Speaker of the United States 00:07:52.850 --> 00:07:56.090 align:middle line:84% House in November, 2020, capping, 00:07:56.090 --> 00:07:58.640 align:middle line:84% for now, what has been a meteoric rise 00:07:58.640 --> 00:08:01.370 align:middle line:84% in a political career that began with her election 00:08:01.370 --> 00:08:04.710 align:middle line:84% to the Melrose School Committee in 2002. 00:08:04.710 --> 00:08:07.020 align:middle line:84% She then won a seat in our Massachusetts House 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:10.080 align:middle line:84% in 2007, in which she represented Melrose and parts 00:08:10.080 --> 00:08:13.260 align:middle line:84% of Wakefield, but it appears that most commentators agree 00:08:13.260 --> 00:08:15.600 align:middle line:84% that she truly arrived on the political scene 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.350 align:middle line:84% when she won her Democratic state primary in 2010, 00:08:19.350 --> 00:08:22.890 align:middle line:84% eking out a meager 28-point win in what many commentators 00:08:22.890 --> 00:08:25.350 align:middle line:84% believe, with all due respect to her opponents 00:08:25.350 --> 00:08:27.780 align:middle line:84% in her congressional races, was probably 00:08:27.780 --> 00:08:31.710 align:middle line:84% the most notable campaign Congresswoman Clark has run. 00:08:31.710 --> 00:08:35.710 align:middle line:84% Congresswoman Clark served admirably in the State Senate, 00:08:35.710 --> 00:08:38.590 align:middle line:84% before winning the 2013 special election 00:08:38.590 --> 00:08:41.620 align:middle line:84% to fill the seat vacated by now Senator Ed Markey. 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:44.230 align:middle line:84% She's excelled during her time in Congress. 00:08:44.230 --> 00:08:46.840 align:middle line:84% She serves this district with distinction, 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.310 align:middle line:84% and we're proud to call her our United States representative. 00:08:50.310 --> 00:08:53.430 align:middle line:84% Honorable members of the Special Commission on Redistricting, 00:08:53.430 --> 00:08:56.250 align:middle line:84% I give you the 5th Congressional District, 00:08:56.250 --> 00:08:58.380 align:middle line:84% and I thank you for the opportunity to do so. 00:08:58.380 --> 00:09:02.730 align:middle line:90% 00:09:02.730 --> 00:09:06.270 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Representative Day, for your comments 00:09:06.270 --> 00:09:12.120 align:middle line:84% and your insight on the 5th Congressional District. 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.700 align:middle line:84% I, too, believe that that was her greatest accomplishment 00:09:14.700 --> 00:09:19.290 align:middle line:84% by winning that primary against all odds, 00:09:19.290 --> 00:09:22.410 align:middle line:84% against a young upstart named Michael Seamus Day. 00:09:22.410 --> 00:09:25.560 align:middle line:90% 00:09:25.560 --> 00:09:30.360 align:middle line:84% This is the second hearing for the committee of redistricting. 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.360 align:middle line:90% This hearing will focus, as my-- 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.080 align:middle line:84% Michael Day just said, of the 5th Congressional District. 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.990 align:middle line:84% This committee has actively encouraged participation 00:09:39.990 --> 00:09:43.570 align:middle line:84% in the redistricting process from federal, state, 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:45.930 align:middle line:84% and municipal officials, public interest groups, 00:09:45.930 --> 00:09:50.010 align:middle line:84% and any concerned citizens who would like to participate. 00:09:50.010 --> 00:09:53.092 align:middle line:84% We are here to listen and learn from the people who 00:09:53.092 --> 00:09:55.050 align:middle line:84% are taking the time out of their busy schedules 00:09:55.050 --> 00:09:57.758 align:middle line:84% to testify here tonight and the elected officials who 00:09:57.758 --> 00:09:59.550 align:middle line:84% are taking time out of their busy schedules 00:09:59.550 --> 00:10:01.700 align:middle line:90% to be with us tonight. 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:03.890 align:middle line:84% So we can learn more about the 5th 00:10:03.890 --> 00:10:08.960 align:middle line:84% as we start down this path of listening and learning 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:13.000 align:middle line:84% on how we should do this redistricting process. 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.280 align:middle line:84% We will start this hearing by taking testimony 00:10:15.280 --> 00:10:16.660 align:middle line:90% from elected officials. 00:10:16.660 --> 00:10:20.380 align:middle line:84% We do this out of a courtesy, because as many of you know, 00:10:20.380 --> 00:10:21.880 align:middle line:84% there are many other events that I'm 00:10:21.880 --> 00:10:23.255 align:middle line:84% sure they have to attend tonight. 00:10:23.255 --> 00:10:25.160 align:middle line:84% So we will be taking their hearing first. 00:10:25.160 --> 00:10:26.950 align:middle line:84% After hearing from the elected officials, 00:10:26.950 --> 00:10:30.400 align:middle line:84% we will call on all other who registered tonight 00:10:30.400 --> 00:10:32.440 align:middle line:84% through the website, and they will 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:37.750 align:middle line:84% be called in order that they registered on the website. 00:10:37.750 --> 00:10:42.040 align:middle line:84% Starting this hearing and testimony tonight will be-- 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:47.500 align:middle line:84% well, we first have the joy of introducing 00:10:47.500 --> 00:10:51.880 align:middle line:84% the 5th Congressional District's Congresswoman Katherine Clark, 00:10:51.880 --> 00:10:54.440 align:middle line:84% somebody who is no stranger to us. 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.800 align:middle line:84% She was a member of the House and served some time 00:10:56.800 --> 00:11:01.780 align:middle line:84% in this legislature before she ascended to the congressperson 00:11:01.780 --> 00:11:04.360 align:middle line:84% from the 5th Congressional District. 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.420 align:middle line:84% Congresswoman Clark, I'm happy you're here to join us, 00:11:07.420 --> 00:11:09.550 align:middle line:84% and we'd love to hear what you have to say. 00:11:09.550 --> 00:11:13.030 align:middle line:84% Oh, thank you so much, and good evening, Chairman Moran, 00:11:13.030 --> 00:11:16.210 align:middle line:84% Chairman Brownsberger, members of the Joint Committee 00:11:16.210 --> 00:11:18.850 align:middle line:84% on Redistricting, and to everyone 00:11:18.850 --> 00:11:21.760 align:middle line:84% testifying and tuning in today as we 00:11:21.760 --> 00:11:25.540 align:middle line:84% engage in this vital step in our democratic process. 00:11:25.540 --> 00:11:30.280 align:middle line:84% It is great to be back, if even virtually, on Beacon Hill. 00:11:30.280 --> 00:11:34.030 align:middle line:84% And I know already that I cannot top that introduction 00:11:34.030 --> 00:11:37.420 align:middle line:84% to the 5th District from Representative Day. 00:11:37.420 --> 00:11:39.970 align:middle line:84% But I want to begin by thanking you 00:11:39.970 --> 00:11:43.900 align:middle line:84% for providing me and the residents of Massachusetts 00:11:43.900 --> 00:11:48.460 align:middle line:84% with an opportunity to participate in today's hearing. 00:11:48.460 --> 00:11:53.230 align:middle line:84% By ensuring that this process is open and transparent, 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:57.490 align:middle line:84% we embody that central principle at the heart of our democracy-- 00:11:57.490 --> 00:11:59.920 align:middle line:90% one person, one vote. 00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:01.990 align:middle line:84% It is we, the people, that breathes life 00:12:01.990 --> 00:12:05.110 align:middle line:84% into our democracy, and it is the census 00:12:05.110 --> 00:12:10.480 align:middle line:84% and this redistricting process that make it a reality. 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.970 align:middle line:84% The census is how we get counted. 00:12:12.970 --> 00:12:17.710 align:middle line:84% The census is how we make sure that Congress represents 00:12:17.710 --> 00:12:21.160 align:middle line:84% every family, and the census is why 00:12:21.160 --> 00:12:24.820 align:middle line:84% we're able to reshape the congressional map to better 00:12:24.820 --> 00:12:26.980 align:middle line:90% serve every community. 00:12:26.980 --> 00:12:32.110 align:middle line:84% You built in transparency in your 2010 redistricting 00:12:32.110 --> 00:12:36.640 align:middle line:84% process, and I applaud that you are continuing public hearings 00:12:36.640 --> 00:12:38.920 align:middle line:84% and will be releasing draft district 00:12:38.920 --> 00:12:42.010 align:middle line:90% maps for comment and review. 00:12:42.010 --> 00:12:45.430 align:middle line:84% Thank you for acknowledging and putting into action 00:12:45.430 --> 00:12:50.290 align:middle line:84% that our government is strongest when people's voices are heard. 00:12:50.290 --> 00:12:54.040 align:middle line:84% Unfortunately, we are seeing other states 00:12:54.040 --> 00:12:58.270 align:middle line:84% across the country undermine, rather than strengthen 00:12:58.270 --> 00:12:59.710 align:middle line:90% our democracy. 00:12:59.710 --> 00:13:04.030 align:middle line:84% From partisan gerrymandering to voter suppression laws, 00:13:04.030 --> 00:13:06.820 align:middle line:84% honoring our small D democracy has 00:13:06.820 --> 00:13:09.910 align:middle line:84% become a dividing position instead 00:13:09.910 --> 00:13:12.250 align:middle line:90% of a unifying principle. 00:13:12.250 --> 00:13:15.760 align:middle line:84% It is a source of great pride that Massachusetts 00:13:15.760 --> 00:13:19.750 align:middle line:84% is leading the way by honoring the Constitution 00:13:19.750 --> 00:13:24.130 align:middle line:84% and remaining committed to equality and fairness. 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:28.300 align:middle line:84% And my pride, of course, doesn't stop there with your work. 00:13:28.300 --> 00:13:30.700 align:middle line:84% It is truly the privilege of a lifetime 00:13:30.700 --> 00:13:36.280 align:middle line:84% to represent the fighting 5th District of Massachusetts. 00:13:36.280 --> 00:13:39.790 align:middle line:84% Since 2013, I've had the pleasure 00:13:39.790 --> 00:13:44.800 align:middle line:84% of working with and getting to know the 24 cities and towns 00:13:44.800 --> 00:13:49.660 align:middle line:84% in the 5th, from the oceanside towns of Revere and Winthrop, 00:13:49.660 --> 00:13:53.140 align:middle line:84% through the historic communities of Cambridge, Arlington, 00:13:53.140 --> 00:13:57.850 align:middle line:84% and Lexington, to the economic engine of Metro West. 00:13:57.850 --> 00:13:59.800 align:middle line:84% During my time in Congress, I have 00:13:59.800 --> 00:14:02.560 align:middle line:84% developed a deep appreciation and love 00:14:02.560 --> 00:14:05.170 align:middle line:84% for the cities and towns in my district 00:14:05.170 --> 00:14:07.990 align:middle line:84% and the people who call them home. 00:14:07.990 --> 00:14:10.700 align:middle line:84% We are made up of urban, suburban, 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:12.250 align:middle line:90% and rural communities. 00:14:12.250 --> 00:14:15.400 align:middle line:84% We are home to vibrant immigrant populations, 00:14:15.400 --> 00:14:19.670 align:middle line:84% who enrich our communities with a diversity of cultures, 00:14:19.670 --> 00:14:22.480 align:middle line:90% backgrounds, and experiences. 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.620 align:middle line:84% We host world-renowned science and biotech companies that are 00:14:26.620 --> 00:14:32.110 align:middle line:84% leading innovation in everything from addressing COVID-19 00:14:32.110 --> 00:14:35.050 align:middle line:84% to finding a cure for Alzheimer's. 00:14:35.050 --> 00:14:38.890 align:middle line:84% Our main streets are populated by thriving small businesses 00:14:38.890 --> 00:14:42.010 align:middle line:84% of every kind, from child care providers 00:14:42.010 --> 00:14:44.500 align:middle line:84% to shops and restaurants to a craft beer 00:14:44.500 --> 00:14:48.340 align:middle line:84% industry that is reinvigorating our downtowns one 00:14:48.340 --> 00:14:50.080 align:middle line:90% pint at a time. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.630 align:middle line:84% We are home to institutions of higher 00:14:52.630 --> 00:14:56.200 align:middle line:84% learning that shape minds and global conversation 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.690 align:middle line:84% and community colleges that are ensuring 00:14:58.690 --> 00:15:01.630 align:middle line:84% that opportunities for higher education 00:15:01.630 --> 00:15:03.920 align:middle line:90% are accessible to all. 00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:07.750 align:middle line:84% And while our district embodies this incredible diversity 00:15:07.750 --> 00:15:11.780 align:middle line:84% of backgrounds, experience, and expertise, 00:15:11.780 --> 00:15:14.800 align:middle line:84% this difficult year has clearly shown 00:15:14.800 --> 00:15:16.870 align:middle line:84% that the people of the 5th District 00:15:16.870 --> 00:15:19.690 align:middle line:84% are bound by what we share in common-- 00:15:19.690 --> 00:15:23.920 align:middle line:84% a commitment to compassion, courage, and creativity 00:15:23.920 --> 00:15:26.515 align:middle line:84% that has made our district even stronger. 00:15:26.515 --> 00:15:29.220 align:middle line:90% 00:15:29.220 --> 00:15:33.230 align:middle line:84% We have seen people transition to remote teaching, 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:36.290 align:middle line:84% while also caring for their families, health care 00:15:36.290 --> 00:15:39.950 align:middle line:84% workers and first responders who put their lives on the line 00:15:39.950 --> 00:15:43.820 align:middle line:84% to save the lives of others, and young activists 00:15:43.820 --> 00:15:46.550 align:middle line:84% who have organized rallies and led protests 00:15:46.550 --> 00:15:51.000 align:middle line:84% to ensure that justice means justice for all. 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.900 align:middle line:84% From Winthrop to Waltham, Southborough 00:15:53.900 --> 00:15:57.260 align:middle line:84% to Stoneham to the Brownsbergers in Belmont, 00:15:57.260 --> 00:15:59.360 align:middle line:84% the 5th District has demonstrated 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.570 align:middle line:84% the incredible strength and altruism. 00:16:02.570 --> 00:16:05.540 align:middle line:84% Our district has donated food, sewn masks, 00:16:05.540 --> 00:16:09.380 align:middle line:84% helped elderly neighbors sign up for vaccine appointments, 00:16:09.380 --> 00:16:13.370 align:middle line:84% and so much more, all to protect the health and safety 00:16:13.370 --> 00:16:15.480 align:middle line:90% of their communities. 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:19.130 align:middle line:84% This is the heart and soul of the 5th District 00:16:19.130 --> 00:16:23.600 align:middle line:84% and why I am so incredibly proud to call it home. 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.930 align:middle line:84% I am eager to see the results of your work 00:16:26.930 --> 00:16:32.720 align:middle line:84% and how MA-5 has continued to grow and transform with time. 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.080 align:middle line:84% I am so grateful to all of you that we 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:41.060 align:middle line:84% share a commitment to honoring our Constitution and the voices 00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:42.950 align:middle line:90% of all residents. 00:16:42.950 --> 00:16:44.860 align:middle line:90% Thank you for this process. 00:16:44.860 --> 00:16:48.290 align:middle line:84% Thank you for the opportunity to join you tonight. 00:16:48.290 --> 00:16:53.170 align:middle line:84% We look forward to working with you in the months to come. 00:16:53.170 --> 00:16:53.860 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:56.140 align:middle line:84% Thank you very much, Congresswoman. 00:16:56.140 --> 00:17:01.420 align:middle line:84% And thank you for that insight in what makes the 5th the 5th. 00:17:01.420 --> 00:17:03.060 align:middle line:90% I would-- can you hear me? 00:17:03.060 --> 00:17:04.000 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:04.510 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:17:04.510 --> 00:17:05.827 align:middle line:90% Oh, good, good, good. 00:17:05.827 --> 00:17:07.869 align:middle line:84% Sometimes-- I had a little audio problem earlier. 00:17:07.869 --> 00:17:13.390 align:middle line:84% So now, I have a few announcements to make. 00:17:13.390 --> 00:17:18.220 align:middle line:84% If anybody is watching at home, they are live streaming, 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:22.300 align:middle line:84% and you would like to testify, you can go to our website, 00:17:22.300 --> 00:17:25.720 align:middle line:84% and you can sign up to testify through the website, 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.770 align:middle line:84% and you will be put on that list tonight, if you are currently-- 00:17:29.770 --> 00:17:33.310 align:middle line:84% would like to say something, and you're not registered or signed 00:17:33.310 --> 00:17:37.020 align:middle line:90% up, you can do that tonight in-- 00:17:37.020 --> 00:17:40.270 align:middle line:90% and we will put you on the list. 00:17:40.270 --> 00:17:46.580 align:middle line:84% Secondly, we have over 70 people signed up to testify, so it's-- 00:17:46.580 --> 00:17:49.750 align:middle line:84% I can imagine it's going to be a long night. 00:17:49.750 --> 00:17:53.440 align:middle line:84% If you can please keep your testimony to three minutes, 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.830 align:middle line:84% that would be greatly appreciated. 00:17:55.830 --> 00:17:59.190 align:middle line:84% At 70 people at three minutes puts us at about four hours, 00:17:59.190 --> 00:18:01.450 align:middle line:84% so I think this is going to be a long one. 00:18:01.450 --> 00:18:04.960 align:middle line:84% So please try, when you can, to keep your comments 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:10.040 align:middle line:90% to the three-minute time frame. 00:18:10.040 --> 00:18:15.340 align:middle line:84% If we do approach midnight, and we do go over the time, 00:18:15.340 --> 00:18:17.930 align:middle line:90% we will recess this hearing. 00:18:17.930 --> 00:18:20.410 align:middle line:84% And those that haven't testified will 00:18:20.410 --> 00:18:25.150 align:middle line:84% be able to testify this Friday, May 7, at 1:00 PM. 00:18:25.150 --> 00:18:27.710 align:middle line:84% If that time doesn't work for you, 00:18:27.710 --> 00:18:31.300 align:middle line:84% then you can testify at the next hearing on the 24th, 00:18:31.300 --> 00:18:34.240 align:middle line:84% because we do want to make sure that anybody who 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:38.620 align:middle line:84% wants their voice to be heard, their voice will be heard. 00:18:38.620 --> 00:18:42.160 align:middle line:84% So as I mentioned earlier, we're going to start testimony-- 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.320 align:middle line:90% 00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:46.250 align:middle line:90% oh, sorry. 00:18:46.250 --> 00:18:48.140 align:middle line:90% Brian just notified me. 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:50.930 align:middle line:84% Does anybody have any questions for the Congresswoman 00:18:50.930 --> 00:18:53.433 align:middle line:90% before she leaves? 00:18:53.433 --> 00:18:55.100 align:middle line:84% Anybody would like to ask any questions, 00:18:55.100 --> 00:18:56.475 align:middle line:84% any member of the committee would 00:18:56.475 --> 00:18:57.575 align:middle line:90% like to ask any questions? 00:18:57.575 --> 00:19:02.810 align:middle line:90% 00:19:02.810 --> 00:19:03.970 align:middle line:90% Hearing none. 00:19:03.970 --> 00:19:05.980 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Congresswoman. 00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:08.740 align:middle line:84% Next up to testify is the gentle lady 00:19:08.740 --> 00:19:13.890 align:middle line:84% from Lexington, Representative Michelle Ciccolo. 00:19:13.890 --> 00:19:17.280 align:middle line:84% Mr. Chairman, may I jump in for a quick second and let you 00:19:17.280 --> 00:19:21.742 align:middle line:84% know and the public know that Senator Fattman has joined us 00:19:21.742 --> 00:19:22.950 align:middle line:90% as a member of the committee. 00:19:22.950 --> 00:19:24.108 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:19:24.108 --> 00:19:24.900 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Senator. 00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:25.692 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Senator. 00:19:25.692 --> 00:19:28.320 align:middle line:90% 00:19:28.320 --> 00:19:28.890 align:middle line:90% Excuse me. 00:19:28.890 --> 00:19:29.490 align:middle line:90% Anybody else? 00:19:29.490 --> 00:19:37.390 align:middle line:90% 00:19:37.390 --> 00:19:39.160 align:middle line:90% Representative Ciccolo. 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:41.440 align:middle line:90% Good evening, Mr. Chairman. 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:44.020 align:middle line:84% Thank you for hosting this hearing. 00:19:44.020 --> 00:19:47.080 align:middle line:84% I appreciate the opportunity to testify before the committee 00:19:47.080 --> 00:19:51.340 align:middle line:84% today, and I appreciate all the members for your dedication 00:19:51.340 --> 00:19:53.230 align:middle line:90% to this process. 00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:56.140 align:middle line:84% It's really terrific to have the opportunity 00:19:56.140 --> 00:20:01.333 align:middle line:84% to participate in something that [INAUDIBLE] and transparent. 00:20:01.333 --> 00:20:03.250 align:middle line:84% And I know that since you have so many people, 00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:04.780 align:middle line:90% I will be very, very brief. 00:20:04.780 --> 00:20:09.520 align:middle line:84% I just wanted to say that I represent the 15th Middlesex 00:20:09.520 --> 00:20:12.010 align:middle line:84% District, which most of you know is all of Lexington 00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:13.390 align:middle line:90% and part of Woburn. 00:20:13.390 --> 00:20:15.760 align:middle line:84% My district has grown in population, 00:20:15.760 --> 00:20:19.390 align:middle line:84% and, perhaps, the boundaries will need to shrink some. 00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:22.000 align:middle line:84% But as you face your impossible task 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.670 align:middle line:84% of trying to figure out how to draw these maps, 00:20:24.670 --> 00:20:26.380 align:middle line:84% I just wanted you all to consider 00:20:26.380 --> 00:20:29.410 align:middle line:84% that one of the things that is little known about Lexington 00:20:29.410 --> 00:20:32.710 align:middle line:84% is our very large Asian population. 00:20:32.710 --> 00:20:38.050 align:middle line:84% We are very blessed and have been actively engaged 00:20:38.050 --> 00:20:40.090 align:middle line:84% over the past decade to find ways 00:20:40.090 --> 00:20:45.100 align:middle line:84% to get our Indian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese residents 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:47.380 align:middle line:84% to actually engage in the political process. 00:20:47.380 --> 00:20:49.660 align:middle line:84% We've had some very considerable success 00:20:49.660 --> 00:20:51.430 align:middle line:84% getting members elected to town meeting, 00:20:51.430 --> 00:20:53.380 align:middle line:84% to town-wide boards and committees, 00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:56.200 align:middle line:84% and getting them engaged, because we believe 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.550 align:middle line:84% wholeheartedly in Lexington that our government should 00:21:00.550 --> 00:21:03.490 align:middle line:84% be representative of the people who live in the district 00:21:03.490 --> 00:21:05.680 align:middle line:84% and should really look like the people who 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.360 align:middle line:90% live in the district. 00:21:07.360 --> 00:21:11.870 align:middle line:84% Lexington is 23% Asian, foreign-born at this point. 00:21:11.870 --> 00:21:17.823 align:middle line:84% And if you include the children of foreign-born residents, 00:21:17.823 --> 00:21:19.240 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] the population numbers 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.240 align:middle line:90% are even higher [INAUDIBLE]. 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.310 align:middle line:84% And the number of schoolchildren [INAUDIBLE] Asian heritage. 00:21:27.310 --> 00:21:29.530 align:middle line:84% And what makes that interesting, obviously, 00:21:29.530 --> 00:21:35.230 align:middle line:84% is that with so many Asian residents, 00:21:35.230 --> 00:21:38.800 align:middle line:84% it's just important to keep Lexington 00:21:38.800 --> 00:21:42.100 align:middle line:84% together so that those residents have an opportunity 00:21:42.100 --> 00:21:44.530 align:middle line:84% to participate in their democracy fully. 00:21:44.530 --> 00:21:47.350 align:middle line:84% It makes them stronger and gives them a greater voice, 00:21:47.350 --> 00:21:49.340 align:middle line:84% and we think that's really critical. 00:21:49.340 --> 00:21:53.290 align:middle line:84% So I just really wanted to give a little bit more flavor 00:21:53.290 --> 00:21:55.270 align:middle line:84% about how my district is comprised 00:21:55.270 --> 00:21:57.070 align:middle line:84% and how it's been changing and let 00:21:57.070 --> 00:22:00.520 align:middle line:84% you know that our government here takes it very seriously. 00:22:00.520 --> 00:22:03.040 align:middle line:84% Having been a member of the select board previously, 00:22:03.040 --> 00:22:05.080 align:middle line:84% we really do make tremendous efforts 00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:07.780 align:middle line:84% to engage our residents of all minorities. 00:22:07.780 --> 00:22:11.290 align:middle line:84% And now that we are also an environmental justice 00:22:11.290 --> 00:22:14.150 align:middle line:84% community, it's important to keep us together. 00:22:14.150 --> 00:22:16.960 align:middle line:84% So with that, I thank you again for your efforts 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:21.520 align:middle line:90% and appreciate your time. 00:22:21.520 --> 00:22:23.530 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Representative Ciccolo. 00:22:23.530 --> 00:22:24.420 align:middle line:90% Much appreciated. 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:27.670 align:middle line:90% Thank you for participating. 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:33.940 align:middle line:84% Next, I would like to have, from the town of Weston, the town 00:22:33.940 --> 00:22:36.820 align:middle line:90% clerk, Deborah Davenport. 00:22:36.820 --> 00:23:02.820 align:middle line:90% 00:23:02.820 --> 00:23:05.850 align:middle line:84% OK, Deborah Davenport has not logged in yet, 00:23:05.850 --> 00:23:09.040 align:middle line:84% so we're going to move to Ryan O'Malley. 00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:11.025 align:middle line:84% Ryan O'Malley, your turn to testify. 00:23:11.025 --> 00:23:18.260 align:middle line:90% 00:23:18.260 --> 00:23:19.360 align:middle line:90% Hello, can you hear me OK? 00:23:19.360 --> 00:23:22.070 align:middle line:90% 00:23:22.070 --> 00:23:22.980 align:middle line:90% Yes, we can hear you. 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:23.480 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:24.650 align:middle line:90% Perfect. 00:23:24.650 --> 00:23:27.283 align:middle line:84% I'd like to thank the Chair, Representative Moran, Senator 00:23:27.283 --> 00:23:29.450 align:middle line:84% Brownsberger, and the members of the Joint Committee 00:23:29.450 --> 00:23:30.560 align:middle line:90% on Redistricting. 00:23:30.560 --> 00:23:31.610 align:middle line:90% My name is Ryan O'Malley. 00:23:31.610 --> 00:23:33.830 align:middle line:84% I'm the Ward 4 City Councilor in Malden. 00:23:33.830 --> 00:23:35.690 align:middle line:84% I'm compelled to appear before you tonight 00:23:35.690 --> 00:23:37.430 align:middle line:84% to highlight the unique opportunity 00:23:37.430 --> 00:23:39.110 align:middle line:84% and challenge you face in redistricting 00:23:39.110 --> 00:23:40.910 align:middle line:90% the 5th Congressional District. 00:23:40.910 --> 00:23:43.520 align:middle line:84% While I'm comforted by the dedication of the Joint 00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:47.300 align:middle line:84% Committee and its leadership to ensure a fair, transparent, 00:23:47.300 --> 00:23:49.730 align:middle line:84% and equitable process, I must highlight 00:23:49.730 --> 00:23:52.640 align:middle line:84% a few overarching matters that make this process more delicate 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:53.960 align:middle line:90% this time around. 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:55.940 align:middle line:84% We are redistricting with data collected 00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:58.250 align:middle line:84% during a pandemic that has disproportionately 00:23:58.250 --> 00:24:01.710 align:middle line:84% impacted BIPOC, immigrant, and lower income communities, 00:24:01.710 --> 00:24:03.260 align:middle line:90% communities like Malden. 00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:05.510 align:middle line:84% We are redistricting with data collected 00:24:05.510 --> 00:24:08.150 align:middle line:84% during an unprecedented and coordinated attack 00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:09.740 align:middle line:84% by the highest office in the land 00:24:09.740 --> 00:24:12.980 align:middle line:84% to intimidate undocumented individuals into not responding 00:24:12.980 --> 00:24:14.360 align:middle line:90% to the census. 00:24:14.360 --> 00:24:16.310 align:middle line:84% We are redistricting when confidence 00:24:16.310 --> 00:24:19.280 align:middle line:84% in American democracy is battered but not yet broken. 00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:22.010 align:middle line:84% It is very important that we get this right 00:24:22.010 --> 00:24:24.920 align:middle line:84% to ensure full enfranchisement and representation 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.300 align:middle line:90% of our residents. 00:24:26.300 --> 00:24:28.250 align:middle line:84% Now, when it comes to communities like Malden 00:24:28.250 --> 00:24:30.440 align:middle line:84% and neighborhoods like mine in Ward 4, 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.440 align:middle line:84% we are faced with very specific and measurable factors 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.650 align:middle line:84% that should weigh into how Malden's districts are drawn. 00:24:36.650 --> 00:24:38.810 align:middle line:84% One, Malden has historically been 00:24:38.810 --> 00:24:41.750 align:middle line:84% undercounted by the census, including this year. 00:24:41.750 --> 00:24:44.840 align:middle line:84% For instance, Malden's overall self-response rate 00:24:44.840 --> 00:24:47.810 align:middle line:84% in the 2020 census was just 66.3%, 00:24:47.810 --> 00:24:52.310 align:middle line:84% which is lower than the overall CD 5 response rate of 75.2%. 00:24:52.310 --> 00:24:55.550 align:middle line:84% Even more alarmingly is the response rate 00:24:55.550 --> 00:24:56.720 align:middle line:90% in my neighborhood. 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:02.090 align:middle line:84% Census tract 3413.01 had a self-response rate 00:25:02.090 --> 00:25:08.810 align:middle line:84% of just 52.3%, down from 64.1% during the 2010 census, 00:25:08.810 --> 00:25:13.160 align:middle line:84% which was in the bottom 20% of the entire census. 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:19.850 align:middle line:84% Census tract 3413.02 also came in low at 66.3%. 00:25:19.850 --> 00:25:25.460 align:middle line:84% Two, Malden has constructed over 2,150 new residential units 00:25:25.460 --> 00:25:26.900 align:middle line:90% over the last 10 years. 00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:30.410 align:middle line:84% The vast majority are in Ward 4 within the census tracts 00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:32.240 align:middle line:90% mentioned above. 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.360 align:middle line:84% Three, most of Malden is an environmental justice area, 00:25:35.360 --> 00:25:39.260 align:middle line:84% and Ward 4, Precinct 1 is designated 00:25:39.260 --> 00:25:43.760 align:middle line:84% as such for its minority income in English isolation statuses. 00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:48.800 align:middle line:84% Four, by comparison to surrounding communities, 00:25:48.800 --> 00:25:54.530 align:middle line:84% Malden's median household income is just 61% of that in Melrose. 00:25:54.530 --> 00:25:59.000 align:middle line:84% Malden's 66,000 versus 107 in Melrose, 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:03.560 align:middle line:84% and our per capita income is only 59% compared to Melrose. 00:26:03.560 --> 00:26:08.000 align:middle line:84% Additionally, 15.5% of Malden residents 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.600 align:middle line:84% live in poverty, versus 4.1% in Melrose. 00:26:11.600 --> 00:26:13.950 align:middle line:84% We are a working class community, 00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:15.770 align:middle line:90% and we are a diverse community. 00:26:15.770 --> 00:26:18.410 align:middle line:84% The people of Malden deserve districts and representation 00:26:18.410 --> 00:26:20.690 align:middle line:84% that share the lived experiences of the people who 00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:21.860 align:middle line:90% actually live in Malden. 00:26:21.860 --> 00:26:24.320 align:middle line:84% It is important that Malden's wards and precincts stay 00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:25.970 align:middle line:90% together as much as possible. 00:26:25.970 --> 00:26:28.550 align:middle line:84% To summarize, one, Malden is currently 00:26:28.550 --> 00:26:30.020 align:middle line:90% undercounted and growing. 00:26:30.020 --> 00:26:33.830 align:middle line:84% Two, Malden is becoming a majority BIPOC community. 00:26:33.830 --> 00:26:36.800 align:middle line:84% Three, Malden has historically lost wards and precincts 00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:39.290 align:middle line:84% to surrounding communities that do not share the same lived 00:26:39.290 --> 00:26:40.790 align:middle line:90% experiences we do. 00:26:40.790 --> 00:26:42.890 align:middle line:84% Four, let's keep Malden together. 00:26:42.890 --> 00:26:45.810 align:middle line:84% Various Malden residents and community organizations 00:26:45.810 --> 00:26:47.810 align:middle line:84% like the Greater Malden Asian-American Community 00:26:47.810 --> 00:26:49.970 align:middle line:84% Coalition could not be here today 00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:52.160 align:middle line:84% but will be submitting written testimony in support 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:53.480 align:middle line:90% of keeping Malden together. 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.880 align:middle line:84% Again, my name is Ryan O'Malley, Ward 4 City Councilor. 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.172 align:middle line:84% I want to thank the Joint Committee for the opportunity 00:26:58.172 --> 00:26:59.660 align:middle line:90% to appear tonight. 00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:02.630 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Ryan, for your testimony. 00:27:02.630 --> 00:27:04.910 align:middle line:84% Ryan, that undercount was something 00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:08.270 align:middle line:84% that we were very concerned about from the legislature, 00:27:08.270 --> 00:27:12.200 align:middle line:84% and we were able to put $2.5 million for the first time 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.730 align:middle line:84% ever into an accurate count committee that was administered 00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:19.550 align:middle line:90% by the secretary of state. 00:27:19.550 --> 00:27:22.520 align:middle line:84% I know that Malden might have been undercounted, 00:27:22.520 --> 00:27:23.990 align:middle line:84% but we tried everything we could, 00:27:23.990 --> 00:27:28.340 align:middle line:84% at least from the legislature, to put things in place so that 00:27:28.340 --> 00:27:29.780 align:middle line:90% wouldn't happen. 00:27:29.780 --> 00:27:35.700 align:middle line:84% Hopefully, that next time that will not happen, 00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:38.480 align:middle line:84% but at this point in time, we're constitutionally mandated 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:39.660 align:middle line:90% to use census data. 00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:42.680 align:middle line:84% So whatever they give us and whenever they give it to us, 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.750 align:middle line:84% that's what we have to use by Constitution. 00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:47.232 align:middle line:90% So but listen. 00:27:47.232 --> 00:27:48.440 align:middle line:90% Thank you for your testimony. 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:49.740 align:middle line:90% It's very much appreciated. 00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:52.190 align:middle line:90% Thank you for participating. 00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:54.680 align:middle line:84% There are some people who have signed up 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.930 align:middle line:90% but have not seemed to check in. 00:27:56.930 --> 00:28:01.100 align:middle line:84% Yolanda Greaves is signed up, and we 00:28:01.100 --> 00:28:03.170 align:middle line:90% haven't heard from her yet. 00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:09.000 align:middle line:84% Darlene Hayes, Isaac Beers, and I 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.780 align:middle line:84% think the next person that is here is George Ahlin. 00:28:12.780 --> 00:28:17.385 align:middle line:84% George Ahlin from Mystic Valley Elder Services. 00:28:17.385 --> 00:28:29.080 align:middle line:90% 00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:30.090 align:middle line:90% George, are you there? 00:28:30.090 --> 00:28:39.072 align:middle line:90% 00:28:39.072 --> 00:28:42.070 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 00:28:42.070 --> 00:28:43.720 align:middle line:90% George, did you want to-- 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.100 align:middle line:90% Hello, George Ahlin. 00:28:45.100 --> 00:28:46.690 align:middle line:90% Hello, George Ahlin? 00:28:46.690 --> 00:28:47.920 align:middle line:90% Yes, George Ahlin. 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.320 align:middle line:90% All right, excellent, George. 00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:52.930 align:middle line:84% Thank you for coming to this hearing virtually, 00:28:52.930 --> 00:28:56.080 align:middle line:84% and please give us your comments on redistricting 00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:57.240 align:middle line:90% that you'd like us to hear. 00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.260 align:middle line:84% Well, first of all, my name is George Ahlin. 00:28:59.260 --> 00:29:02.110 align:middle line:84% I'm a retired clinical pharmacist from-- 00:29:02.110 --> 00:29:03.100 align:middle line:90% in Massachusetts. 00:29:03.100 --> 00:29:06.950 align:middle line:84% My job as a pharmacist was to protect the public health. 00:29:06.950 --> 00:29:10.090 align:middle line:90% I am retired right now. 00:29:10.090 --> 00:29:13.840 align:middle line:84% I am concerned about this redistricting. 00:29:13.840 --> 00:29:18.490 align:middle line:84% I represent Mystic Valley Elder Services all the time, 00:29:18.490 --> 00:29:19.690 align:middle line:90% not only for Revere. 00:29:19.690 --> 00:29:23.770 align:middle line:84% I came from-- lived in Melrose for the past 45 years, 00:29:23.770 --> 00:29:27.720 align:middle line:84% and now I'm living in Revere with my wife. 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:31.560 align:middle line:84% I feel that redistricting is very, very important. 00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:33.330 align:middle line:84% My wife just came from [INAUDIBLE] Life, 00:29:33.330 --> 00:29:36.900 align:middle line:84% where she brought in the [INAUDIBLE].. 00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:38.760 align:middle line:90% I support this program. 00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:41.400 align:middle line:84% Unfortunately, as we just heard, in Malden, 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.460 align:middle line:84% the census wasn't too good because of the-- 00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:45.690 align:middle line:90% it just doesn't work. 00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:48.750 align:middle line:84% And it has-- it's been like that throughout the country. 00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:53.130 align:middle line:84% I am feeling very strong about the problem 00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:54.570 align:middle line:90% we have with gerrymandering. 00:29:54.570 --> 00:29:55.920 align:middle line:90% And we need to get-- 00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:01.010 align:middle line:84% eliminate the partisan gerrymandering 00:30:01.010 --> 00:30:06.680 align:middle line:84% and make it an independent, nonpartisan redistricting 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:07.730 align:middle line:90% commission. 00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:11.720 align:middle line:84% And I have seen other community estates that has done this, 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.850 align:middle line:84% and I feel that would be the best interest. 00:30:13.850 --> 00:30:16.190 align:middle line:90% Massachusetts is a great state. 00:30:16.190 --> 00:30:17.480 align:middle line:90% We've got a great mayor. 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:23.180 align:middle line:84% We've got a great-- and my representative, 00:30:23.180 --> 00:30:25.350 align:middle line:84% Katherine Clark, has done an outstanding job. 00:30:25.350 --> 00:30:26.400 align:middle line:90% She really has. 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.150 align:middle line:84% She's been very supportive, as everybody in the state 00:30:29.150 --> 00:30:32.600 align:middle line:84% has been to Mystic Valley Elder Services and the seniors. 00:30:32.600 --> 00:30:36.710 align:middle line:84% So the seniors really appreciate the hard work you're doing. 00:30:36.710 --> 00:30:40.520 align:middle line:84% I would like to think that as you're going forward, 00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:43.280 align:middle line:84% partisan politics has got to stop. 00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:46.640 align:middle line:84% And we've got to get in and stop from this gerrymandering that's 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.740 align:middle line:90% going on. 00:30:48.740 --> 00:30:53.150 align:middle line:84% We need an independent, nonpartisan redistricting 00:30:53.150 --> 00:30:56.930 align:middle line:84% commission, and maybe the Supreme Court 00:30:56.930 --> 00:31:00.770 align:middle line:84% are the ones that should be able to monitor what they do. 00:31:00.770 --> 00:31:04.640 align:middle line:84% The seniors in Melrose, Melrose, Malden, Medford, 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.390 align:middle line:84% all the communities, Stoneham, Wakefield-- 00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:08.057 align:middle line:84% I can go on. [? There's several ?] other 00:31:08.057 --> 00:31:09.080 align:middle line:90% communities-- 00:31:09.080 --> 00:31:11.480 align:middle line:84% they're concerned about how things 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.310 align:middle line:84% are getting done, because seniors seem 00:31:13.310 --> 00:31:15.170 align:middle line:90% to be pushed off on the back. 00:31:15.170 --> 00:31:18.980 align:middle line:84% But thank god, the Massachusetts Congress 00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:22.490 align:middle line:84% has done an excellent job, and it's keeping our seniors going. 00:31:22.490 --> 00:31:24.930 align:middle line:90% We appreciate your hard work. 00:31:24.930 --> 00:31:28.460 align:middle line:84% I hope to see you all at the next luncheon-- 00:31:28.460 --> 00:31:32.480 align:middle line:84% at the next breakfast meeting at Mystic Valley. 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.320 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:31:33.320 --> 00:31:35.490 align:middle line:90% OK, thank you, George. 00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:40.620 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] time to [INAUDIBLE] and give us your comments. 00:31:40.620 --> 00:31:44.300 align:middle line:90% Next up is Paul Schlichtman. 00:31:44.300 --> 00:31:46.500 align:middle line:84% He is a member of the Arlington School Committee. 00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:47.000 align:middle line:90% Paul? 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:53.490 align:middle line:90% 00:31:53.490 --> 00:31:56.640 align:middle line:84% Good evening, and thank you, Mr. Chairman 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.900 align:middle line:84% and Senator Brownsberger, who's an old friend. 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:03.420 align:middle line:84% I represent-- I'm a member of the school 00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:05.820 align:middle line:84% committee in Arlington, and we're 00:32:05.820 --> 00:32:07.410 align:middle line:84% the heart and soul of this district, 00:32:07.410 --> 00:32:08.970 align:middle line:90% of the 5th Congressional. 00:32:08.970 --> 00:32:11.010 align:middle line:90% We punch above our weight. 00:32:11.010 --> 00:32:14.400 align:middle line:84% Arlington is a municipality, produced the ninth largest vote 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:20.310 align:middle line:84% total in the Democratic primary this year for President. 00:32:20.310 --> 00:32:24.210 align:middle line:84% we're certainly not the ninth largest municipality. 00:32:24.210 --> 00:32:27.420 align:middle line:84% We really enjoyed being represented by Speaker O'Neill, 00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:32.010 align:middle line:84% and we look forward to being represented by Speaker Clark. 00:32:32.010 --> 00:32:34.470 align:middle line:84% So yeah, we-- we're the heart and soul 00:32:34.470 --> 00:32:36.000 align:middle line:90% in the center of the 5th. 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.280 align:middle line:90% We'd like to stay that way. 00:32:38.280 --> 00:32:40.650 align:middle line:84% I want to speak about our situation 00:32:40.650 --> 00:32:43.090 align:middle line:84% with the State House of Representatives. 00:32:43.090 --> 00:32:48.210 align:middle line:84% We are currently divided between two representatives, 00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:52.950 align:middle line:84% Representative Garballey and Representative Rogers. 00:32:52.950 --> 00:32:56.190 align:middle line:84% Historically, Arlington has been tied to Belmont 00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:59.040 align:middle line:90% in the rep race. 00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:01.620 align:middle line:84% We have been well served by this. 00:33:01.620 --> 00:33:04.770 align:middle line:84% Senator Brownsberger has been an excellent representative 00:33:04.770 --> 00:33:07.920 align:middle line:84% for us, and we're happy to see him in the Senate. 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.050 align:middle line:84% We miss him, and we're glad he listens 00:33:10.050 --> 00:33:14.580 align:middle line:84% to us, even though we're no longer in his boundaries. 00:33:14.580 --> 00:33:16.750 align:middle line:84% The current division works for us. 00:33:16.750 --> 00:33:22.560 align:middle line:84% So if you're looking at making Arlington work in terms 00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:25.870 align:middle line:84% of representation, we're pretty happy where we're at. 00:33:25.870 --> 00:33:29.700 align:middle line:84% So if you're going to mess with lines and mess 00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:33.090 align:middle line:84% with other things, go around Arlington. 00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:33.970 align:middle line:90% Leave us alone. 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:36.530 align:middle line:90% We're doing pretty well. 00:33:36.530 --> 00:33:39.270 align:middle line:84% I know this is hard work for you guys, 00:33:39.270 --> 00:33:43.690 align:middle line:84% and you've got 351 communities with a whole different bunch 00:33:43.690 --> 00:33:45.670 align:middle line:90% of viewpoints. 00:33:45.670 --> 00:33:49.530 align:middle line:84% And I appreciate the supreme challenge of the population 00:33:49.530 --> 00:33:53.340 align:middle line:84% shifts this year have put before you. 00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:57.750 align:middle line:84% And I admire your work, and we'll 00:33:57.750 --> 00:34:00.570 align:middle line:84% be happy to talk to you further, if you so desire. 00:34:00.570 --> 00:34:03.190 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 00:34:03.190 --> 00:34:05.380 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Paul. 00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:07.060 align:middle line:84% I will be sure to pass that along 00:34:07.060 --> 00:34:10.150 align:middle line:84% to Representative Rogers and Representative Garballey 00:34:10.150 --> 00:34:14.530 align:middle line:84% that you want to keep both of them. 00:34:14.530 --> 00:34:17.683 align:middle line:84% I understand-- I understand Sean Garballey, but Dave Rogers, 00:34:17.683 --> 00:34:18.850 align:middle line:90% I got to be honest with you. 00:34:18.850 --> 00:34:19.460 align:middle line:90% I'm just kidding. 00:34:19.460 --> 00:34:20.043 align:middle line:90% That's a joke. 00:34:20.043 --> 00:34:21.010 align:middle line:90% I'm just kidding. 00:34:21.010 --> 00:34:21.909 align:middle line:90% Dave's a good friend. 00:34:21.909 --> 00:34:25.600 align:middle line:90% 00:34:25.600 --> 00:34:29.800 align:middle line:84% There are a lot of people who have seemed to sign up here, 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.860 align:middle line:90% who have not logged in yet. 00:34:32.860 --> 00:34:34.719 align:middle line:84% So if you would indulge me, I'm going 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.630 align:middle line:84% to read through their names, because I just want, 00:34:37.630 --> 00:34:43.389 align:middle line:84% if they are watching, to let them know that we have not-- 00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:45.880 align:middle line:84% they have not logged in yet in a manner in which we can 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:47.800 align:middle line:90% pull them out for testimony. 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:56.110 align:middle line:84% Janet Sturman, Karen Roy, Guy Abernathy, 00:34:56.110 --> 00:35:03.270 align:middle line:84% Patrick Leahy [? Nally. ?] Joan [? Weskit, ?] Lisa Sullivan, 00:35:03.270 --> 00:35:08.520 align:middle line:84% [? Tristan ?] Campbell, Matthew [? Luss, ?] [? Katherine ?] 00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:14.100 align:middle line:84% [? Phillips, ?] Edward [? Mahati, ?] Mary [? Reddy, ?] 00:35:14.100 --> 00:35:21.150 align:middle line:84% [? Louis ?] Sampson, Gregory [? DiGirilmo, ?] I think that 00:35:21.150 --> 00:35:28.510 align:middle line:84% is, Paul [? Joy ?] John Burgess, and John [? Manni. ?] So those 00:35:28.510 --> 00:35:31.540 align:middle line:84% people have registered to testify, 00:35:31.540 --> 00:35:34.300 align:middle line:90% but they have not logged in yet. 00:35:34.300 --> 00:35:38.080 align:middle line:84% The next person that has logged in that would like to testify, 00:35:38.080 --> 00:35:41.320 align:middle line:84% I believe, is Teresa [? McNutt ?] from Belmont. 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:42.250 align:middle line:90% Mr. Chairman? 00:35:42.250 --> 00:35:43.310 align:middle line:90% Mr. Chairman? 00:35:43.310 --> 00:35:44.320 align:middle line:90% Yes. 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.000 align:middle line:84% Maybe it would be useful just to repeat, in case, just possible 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.740 align:middle line:84% that some people don't realize that they 00:35:50.740 --> 00:35:54.280 align:middle line:84% need to come into the Zoom link in order to be recognized. 00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.245 align:middle line:84% When you signed up through the form, you were-- 00:36:00.245 --> 00:36:03.380 align:middle line:84% a Zoom link was displayed for you. 00:36:03.380 --> 00:36:06.220 align:middle line:84% And if you are not seeing that Zoom 00:36:06.220 --> 00:36:08.360 align:middle line:84% link, another way to get it, again, 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.300 align:middle line:90% would just be to re-sign up. 00:36:10.300 --> 00:36:12.400 align:middle line:84% And then you'll see that Zoom link, 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.120 align:middle line:90% so you can come in and testify. 00:36:16.120 --> 00:36:18.280 align:middle line:84% So this-- people who are seeing this 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.010 align:middle line:84% through the live feed as opposed to the Zoom link 00:36:21.010 --> 00:36:23.950 align:middle line:84% may pick that up and be able to come back in and take 00:36:23.950 --> 00:36:26.180 align:middle line:90% their place in line to testify. 00:36:26.180 --> 00:36:26.680 align:middle line:90% Great. 00:36:26.680 --> 00:36:28.960 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Senator. 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.410 align:middle line:84% Again, who is registered in here, I believe, 00:36:32.410 --> 00:36:34.820 align:middle line:84% is Teresa [? McNutt ?] from Belmont. 00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:44.080 align:middle line:90% 00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:45.000 align:middle line:90% Teresa, you there? 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:51.130 align:middle line:90% 00:36:51.130 --> 00:36:52.540 align:middle line:90% Yes, I am. 00:36:52.540 --> 00:36:54.010 align:middle line:90% I'm a listener. 00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:57.790 align:middle line:90% I do not intend to testify. 00:36:57.790 --> 00:37:01.240 align:middle line:84% So thank you for acknowledging that I had that opportunity. 00:37:01.240 --> 00:37:01.740 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:37:01.740 --> 00:37:05.110 align:middle line:90% 00:37:05.110 --> 00:37:06.850 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Teresa. 00:37:06.850 --> 00:37:10.840 align:middle line:84% Also, who is here, I believe, and would like to testify, 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.325 align:middle line:90% Jack Lebovic. 00:37:12.325 --> 00:37:17.950 align:middle line:90% 00:37:17.950 --> 00:37:18.450 align:middle line:90% Jack? 00:37:18.450 --> 00:37:23.400 align:middle line:90% 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:23.900 align:middle line:90% Hello. 00:37:23.900 --> 00:37:26.370 align:middle line:90% Good evening. 00:37:26.370 --> 00:37:27.660 align:middle line:90% Can everyone hear me? 00:37:27.660 --> 00:37:28.460 align:middle line:90% Yep. 00:37:28.460 --> 00:37:29.690 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:37:29.690 --> 00:37:32.540 align:middle line:84% I'd like to begin by thanking Chairman Brownsberger, Chairman 00:37:32.540 --> 00:37:34.250 align:middle line:84% Moran, and the members of the committee 00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:36.530 align:middle line:84% for hosting this hearing and for your continued 00:37:36.530 --> 00:37:38.420 align:middle line:84% commitment to engaging committee members 00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:40.160 align:middle line:84% throughout the redistricting process. 00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:41.270 align:middle line:90% My name is Jake Lebovic. 00:37:41.270 --> 00:37:44.330 align:middle line:84% I lead community outreach work at Lawyers for Civil Rights. 00:37:44.330 --> 00:37:47.480 align:middle line:84% LCR protects and expands voting rights for people of color 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.760 align:middle line:84% and traditionally disenfranchised groups. 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:51.980 align:middle line:84% As part of this work, we, along with our partners 00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:53.802 align:middle line:84% under the Drawing Democracy Coalition, 00:37:53.802 --> 00:37:55.760 align:middle line:84% are ensuring that the forthcoming redistricting 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.060 align:middle line:84% process across the Commonwealth is fair, equitable, 00:37:59.060 --> 00:38:01.670 align:middle line:84% transparent, and community-driven. 00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:04.310 align:middle line:84% I'm here today to echo the powerful testimony provided 00:38:04.310 --> 00:38:06.748 align:middle line:84% by the community members and groups here before you 00:38:06.748 --> 00:38:09.290 align:middle line:84% and to underscore the importance of keeping these communities 00:38:09.290 --> 00:38:11.547 align:middle line:84% together when redrawing district lines, 00:38:11.547 --> 00:38:13.880 align:middle line:84% particularly for the communities comprised predominantly 00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.590 align:middle line:84% of immigrants and people of color 00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:19.278 align:middle line:84% in cities such as Revere, Framingham, and Malden. 00:38:19.278 --> 00:38:20.820 align:middle line:84% Through our partnerships and advocacy 00:38:20.820 --> 00:38:23.027 align:middle line:84% on behalf of residents in CD 5, we've 00:38:23.027 --> 00:38:25.110 align:middle line:84% seen that when communities of color are empowered, 00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:26.970 align:middle line:90% it strengthens our common law. 00:38:26.970 --> 00:38:30.180 align:middle line:84% In Revere, LCR is leading eviction prevention work 00:38:30.180 --> 00:38:32.670 align:middle line:84% as a critical part of our medical legal partnership 00:38:32.670 --> 00:38:34.290 align:middle line:90% with MGH Revere. 00:38:34.290 --> 00:38:37.020 align:middle line:84% And Framingham LCR is actively supporting 00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:39.540 align:middle line:84% the membership of the Brazilian Workers' Center. 00:38:39.540 --> 00:38:42.600 align:middle line:84% In Malden, LCR protected the rights of young black women 00:38:42.600 --> 00:38:45.210 align:middle line:84% to wear their hair in braids at Mystic Valley Regional Charter 00:38:45.210 --> 00:38:46.260 align:middle line:90% School. 00:38:46.260 --> 00:38:48.570 align:middle line:84% In this manner, LCR is familiar with the needs 00:38:48.570 --> 00:38:51.720 align:middle line:84% on the ground of CD 5, and we know that fair representation 00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:54.420 align:middle line:84% is the foundation of advancing racial justice and equity 00:38:54.420 --> 00:38:56.415 align:middle line:90% in these communities. 00:38:56.415 --> 00:38:58.290 align:middle line:84% Based on our first-hand work in the district, 00:38:58.290 --> 00:39:00.623 align:middle line:84% we are firmly convinced that drawing district lines that 00:39:00.623 --> 00:39:02.790 align:middle line:84% keep communities of color and immigrant communities 00:39:02.790 --> 00:39:05.070 align:middle line:84% together is a necessary first step toward making 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:07.110 align:middle line:90% fair representation a reality. 00:39:07.110 --> 00:39:08.670 align:middle line:84% Throughout the line-drawing process, 00:39:08.670 --> 00:39:10.380 align:middle line:84% LCR will continue to be a resource 00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:12.260 align:middle line:84% to elevate the voices of community members 00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:14.760 align:middle line:84% and to ensure compliance with the federal voting rights laws 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.882 align:middle line:90% on their behalf. 00:39:15.882 --> 00:39:17.340 align:middle line:84% We are grateful for the opportunity 00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:19.090 align:middle line:84% to support the residents in this district, 00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:20.603 align:middle line:84% and we look forward to continuing 00:39:20.603 --> 00:39:22.020 align:middle line:84% to work with the Drawing Democracy 00:39:22.020 --> 00:39:24.000 align:middle line:84% Coalition and this committee to foster 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.190 align:middle line:84% a more equitable and inclusive democracy. 00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:28.070 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:39:28.070 --> 00:39:28.570 align:middle line:90% Great. 00:39:28.570 --> 00:39:29.770 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Jack. 00:39:29.770 --> 00:39:32.830 align:middle line:90% Thank you for your testimony. 00:39:32.830 --> 00:39:33.940 align:middle line:90% Thanks, Jack. 00:39:33.940 --> 00:39:37.600 align:middle line:90% So Patricia Muldoon is next. 00:39:37.600 --> 00:39:38.980 align:middle line:84% I don't believe she is logged in, 00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:40.920 align:middle line:90% but we wanted to call her out. 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.680 align:middle line:84% [? Caitlin ?] [? Christopher ?] from Bellingham, 00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:44.590 align:middle line:90% you would be next. 00:39:44.590 --> 00:39:50.270 align:middle line:90% 00:39:50.270 --> 00:39:57.710 align:middle line:90% [? Caitlin? ?] 00:39:57.710 --> 00:39:59.125 align:middle line:90% Hello, can you hear me? 00:39:59.125 --> 00:39:59.810 align:middle line:90% I can. 00:39:59.810 --> 00:40:01.140 align:middle line:90% You're here. 00:40:01.140 --> 00:40:01.640 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:40:01.640 --> 00:40:03.450 align:middle line:90% Oh, thank you. 00:40:03.450 --> 00:40:03.950 align:middle line:90% Sorry. 00:40:03.950 --> 00:40:06.240 align:middle line:90% It logged out for a second. 00:40:06.240 --> 00:40:12.820 align:middle line:84% So thank you for hosting this session for all of us. 00:40:12.820 --> 00:40:16.670 align:middle line:84% I'm here, just because I had received 00:40:16.670 --> 00:40:19.490 align:middle line:84% an email from Katherine Clark, which I really appreciated. 00:40:19.490 --> 00:40:22.060 align:middle line:90% 00:40:22.060 --> 00:40:23.620 align:middle line:90% And I just wanted to show up. 00:40:23.620 --> 00:40:27.910 align:middle line:84% I wanted to listen to what everyone else has to say, 00:40:27.910 --> 00:40:34.480 align:middle line:84% everyone in my immediate community. 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.980 align:middle line:84% And I suppose I just want to say that with things going 00:40:38.980 --> 00:40:41.740 align:middle line:84% the way that they had in the country 00:40:41.740 --> 00:40:46.900 align:middle line:84% in the past several years, I'm just afraid that certain people 00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:51.550 align:middle line:84% aren't being represented, while other people are being overly 00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:54.050 align:middle line:90% represented. 00:40:54.050 --> 00:40:57.270 align:middle line:84% And I don't know what to suggest to combat this issue 00:40:57.270 --> 00:40:59.080 align:middle line:90% for this particular process. 00:40:59.080 --> 00:41:01.780 align:middle line:90% 00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:05.860 align:middle line:84% Gerrymandering has come up, but I just 00:41:05.860 --> 00:41:09.670 align:middle line:84% want to urge you to do right by all of our people, especially 00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:12.370 align:middle line:90% underrepresented minorities. 00:41:12.370 --> 00:41:14.710 align:middle line:90% Please give them a voice. 00:41:14.710 --> 00:41:18.850 align:middle line:84% BIPOC people, immigrants, the working class-- 00:41:18.850 --> 00:41:22.420 align:middle line:84% I just want to see, I guess, more representation 00:41:22.420 --> 00:41:26.020 align:middle line:84% given to these people so that they have more opportunities 00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:31.090 align:middle line:84% and so that the community at large can flourish and do well. 00:41:31.090 --> 00:41:33.940 align:middle line:90% 00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:34.440 align:middle line:90% That's it. 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:34.940 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:38.490 align:middle line:90% 00:41:38.490 --> 00:41:41.130 align:middle line:84% Thank you, [? Caitlin. ?] That is certainly 00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:45.270 align:middle line:84% the intent of this committee, to do exactly what you said. 00:41:45.270 --> 00:41:49.500 align:middle line:84% I believe 10 years ago, that was also the intent, 00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:53.350 align:middle line:84% and some would say that that's exactly what we did. 00:41:53.350 --> 00:41:58.260 align:middle line:84% And we have the strongest and most diverse 00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:00.210 align:middle line:84% congressional district that we could draw, 00:42:00.210 --> 00:42:03.320 align:middle line:84% and that's being represented right now by Ayanna Pressley. 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:08.700 align:middle line:84% So anyways, next, signed up to testify 00:42:08.700 --> 00:42:11.490 align:middle line:84% is [? Sarah ?] Stone and Roy Saltman, 00:42:11.490 --> 00:42:14.130 align:middle line:84% but they have not checked in yet. 00:42:14.130 --> 00:42:16.260 align:middle line:84% So we'll go down to Christopher Fry. 00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:18.405 align:middle line:90% Christopher Fry from Sudbury? 00:42:18.405 --> 00:42:28.110 align:middle line:90% 00:42:28.110 --> 00:42:31.190 align:middle line:90% Christopher, you here? 00:42:31.190 --> 00:42:32.210 align:middle line:90% Wait a minute. 00:42:32.210 --> 00:42:33.770 align:middle line:90% Now, can you hear me? 00:42:33.770 --> 00:42:35.960 align:middle line:90% I can hear you now, Christopher. 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:36.920 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.230 align:middle line:84% At the beginning of this session, somebody-- 00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:41.570 align:middle line:84% I'm sorry, I forgot who said-- our district is 00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:44.570 align:middle line:84% unique to the state for a number of important reasons. 00:42:44.570 --> 00:42:48.590 align:middle line:84% As an instructor at MIT, I certainly second that. 00:42:48.590 --> 00:42:51.800 align:middle line:84% But further, we are unique in the country, 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.460 align:middle line:84% and I would actually argue the entire world. 00:42:55.460 --> 00:42:57.860 align:middle line:84% With such great intellectual resources 00:42:57.860 --> 00:43:00.290 align:middle line:90% comes great responsibility. 00:43:00.290 --> 00:43:03.920 align:middle line:84% As such, I have an innovative proposal. 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.770 align:middle line:84% Rather than doing another gerrymandered congressional 00:43:06.770 --> 00:43:11.480 align:middle line:84% district map, I suggest making Massachusetts one district that 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:15.500 align:middle line:84% elects nine representatives using instant runoff voting, 00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:19.050 align:middle line:84% like Cambridge does for its city council. 00:43:19.050 --> 00:43:23.280 align:middle line:84% I would like to list five objections to my proposal, 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:24.990 align:middle line:84% because I'm sure there's a lot of them, 00:43:24.990 --> 00:43:27.030 align:middle line:84% and give some responses just to help 00:43:27.030 --> 00:43:29.560 align:middle line:90% clarify what I'm talking about. 00:43:29.560 --> 00:43:33.780 align:middle line:84% First objection-- IRV is new and untested. 00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:36.600 align:middle line:84% That's true relative to first past the post, 00:43:36.600 --> 00:43:39.340 align:middle line:84% but there's plenty of examples of it in the world. 00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:42.450 align:middle line:84% First past the post has failed to give us a government that 00:43:42.450 --> 00:43:44.490 align:middle line:90% makes optimal decisions. 00:43:44.490 --> 00:43:46.680 align:middle line:90% We need a better process. 00:43:46.680 --> 00:43:49.110 align:middle line:84% We, our congressional district, can 00:43:49.110 --> 00:43:53.340 align:middle line:84% lead the way in Massachusetts to getting the country a better 00:43:53.340 --> 00:43:54.420 align:middle line:90% government. 00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:57.420 align:middle line:84% Massachusetts invented gerrymandering. 00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:00.630 align:middle line:84% Massachusetts should invent something better. 00:44:00.630 --> 00:44:04.410 align:middle line:84% Objection two, this won't allow a representative 00:44:04.410 --> 00:44:07.150 align:middle line:84% to bring home pork to their district. 00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:09.810 align:middle line:84% That's correct, and that's a good thing. 00:44:09.810 --> 00:44:12.780 align:middle line:84% Federal tax dollars should benefit the whole country 00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:15.270 align:middle line:84% efficiently, not isolated districts. 00:44:15.270 --> 00:44:18.540 align:middle line:84% Local projects should be funded with local money. 00:44:18.540 --> 00:44:21.750 align:middle line:84% Objection three, no incumbent will 00:44:21.750 --> 00:44:24.480 align:middle line:84% vote for this, because they care more about re-election 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.300 align:middle line:84% than anything else, and any change to the rules 00:44:27.300 --> 00:44:30.360 align:middle line:84% will make it less likely that they'll win again. 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.000 align:middle line:84% This objection is the reason my proposal 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.370 align:middle line:90% is least likely to get adopted. 00:44:35.370 --> 00:44:39.570 align:middle line:84% But I will say, one, when districts 00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:42.060 align:middle line:84% change under the old systems, representatives 00:44:42.060 --> 00:44:43.950 align:middle line:90% lose some of their supporters. 00:44:43.950 --> 00:44:46.740 align:middle line:90% This lets them get them back. 00:44:46.740 --> 00:44:49.860 align:middle line:84% Two, special issue candidates will get support 00:44:49.860 --> 00:44:52.920 align:middle line:84% from all over the state for their special issue, which 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.250 align:middle line:84% will only need 1/9 of the state of support coming 00:44:56.250 --> 00:44:59.610 align:middle line:84% from all districts, when they wouldn't be able to get 1/9 00:44:59.610 --> 00:45:01.840 align:middle line:90% from just one district. 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.720 align:middle line:84% And a third advantage for representatives 00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:09.040 align:middle line:84% is they'll get to represent the entire state of Massachusetts, 00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:11.740 align:middle line:84% and by doing so, build their name recognition 00:45:11.740 --> 00:45:13.600 align:middle line:90% for a Senate run. 00:45:13.600 --> 00:45:17.980 align:middle line:84% Fourth objection, this proposal makes party politics 00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:22.540 align:middle line:84% less influential in corrupting the will of the people. 00:45:22.540 --> 00:45:25.150 align:middle line:90% My response is I'm afraid so. 00:45:25.150 --> 00:45:27.720 align:middle line:90% And my last objection-- 00:45:27.720 --> 00:45:29.770 align:middle line:84% this will allow minorities to have 00:45:29.770 --> 00:45:34.000 align:middle line:84% more say in how their taxpayer dollars are spent 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.000 align:middle line:84% and, thus, disrupting the status quo. 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.790 align:middle line:90% Again, I'm afraid so. 00:45:39.790 --> 00:45:40.540 align:middle line:90% I'm done. 00:45:40.540 --> 00:45:43.360 align:middle line:90% 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:44.910 align:middle line:84% Thank you very much, Christopher. 00:45:44.910 --> 00:45:48.928 align:middle line:84% We appreciate your opinion, although I'm not 00:45:48.928 --> 00:45:50.970 align:middle line:84% sure I agree with all of it, but I appreciate it. 00:45:50.970 --> 00:45:56.400 align:middle line:84% So next up would be [? Pradaka ?] Pratt 00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:01.980 align:middle line:84% from Framingham, who I don't believe has logged in yet. 00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:03.690 align:middle line:84% Virginia [? Rosen, ?] who I don't believe 00:46:03.690 --> 00:46:04.590 align:middle line:90% has logged in yet. 00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:07.500 align:middle line:90% 00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:10.500 align:middle line:84% [? Danee ?] Johnson, who I don't believe is logged in yet. 00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:13.270 align:middle line:84% And I believe who is here is Joan Hill from Natick. 00:46:13.270 --> 00:46:13.770 align:middle line:90% Joan? 00:46:13.770 --> 00:46:31.937 align:middle line:90% 00:46:31.937 --> 00:46:35.640 align:middle line:90% Joan Hill, you there? 00:46:35.640 --> 00:46:42.290 align:middle line:84% In the meantime, if Christopher is still here, Paul Frost, 00:46:42.290 --> 00:46:44.420 align:middle line:84% Representative Frost has made it known to me 00:46:44.420 --> 00:46:46.470 align:middle line:84% that he would like to ask a question. 00:46:46.470 --> 00:46:47.345 align:middle line:90% Representative Frost? 00:46:47.345 --> 00:46:51.120 align:middle line:90% 00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:52.120 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:46:52.120 --> 00:46:55.000 align:middle line:84% And I think all I kind of want to do is comment 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.960 align:middle line:84% and to say that regarding that last proposal that we had, 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:03.053 align:middle line:84% had received, it was to ask the question 00:47:03.053 --> 00:47:04.720 align:middle line:84% or at least address the issue as saying, 00:47:04.720 --> 00:47:08.770 align:middle line:84% I think that there would be a fourth or fifth objection 00:47:08.770 --> 00:47:12.490 align:middle line:84% of being from Central Massachusetts. 00:47:12.490 --> 00:47:14.680 align:middle line:84% I think they would be-- and I don't 00:47:14.680 --> 00:47:17.920 align:middle line:84% know what his thoughts on that were-- but some objection 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.970 align:middle line:84% to folks, say, out in Central or Western Massachusetts 00:47:21.970 --> 00:47:27.100 align:middle line:84% that if Boston gets to decide who our Congress folks are 00:47:27.100 --> 00:47:29.770 align:middle line:84% going to be out this way, I think 00:47:29.770 --> 00:47:32.140 align:middle line:84% there would be definitely some pushback on that. 00:47:32.140 --> 00:47:36.180 align:middle line:84% And he didn't seem to address that particular issue. 00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:40.140 align:middle line:84% And at some point down the line, if he does return, 00:47:40.140 --> 00:47:41.890 align:middle line:84% I would like to hear his comments on that. 00:47:41.890 --> 00:47:46.100 align:middle line:84% But being from Central Massachusetts, you know, 00:47:46.100 --> 00:47:48.100 align:middle line:84% I've advocated for that Worcester-based district 00:47:48.100 --> 00:47:51.785 align:middle line:84% for a long time and to have regional sense 00:47:51.785 --> 00:47:52.660 align:middle line:90% with these districts. 00:47:52.660 --> 00:47:57.490 align:middle line:84% And I obviously-- and I think you do agree, Mr. Chair-- 00:47:57.490 --> 00:48:03.940 align:middle line:84% that a proposal, such as a statewide deciding the nine 00:48:03.940 --> 00:48:08.410 align:middle line:84% seats would take away influence from the very regions that 00:48:08.410 --> 00:48:10.900 align:middle line:84% are looking for that influence from their congressmen 00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:13.660 align:middle line:84% and that representation from their congressperson. 00:48:13.660 --> 00:48:15.700 align:middle line:84% So thank you, Mr. Chairman, and that was 00:48:15.700 --> 00:48:18.565 align:middle line:90% kind of my statement/question. 00:48:18.565 --> 00:48:22.920 align:middle line:84% All right, and I believe Christopher Fry is still on, 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.395 align:middle line:84% and he would like to address that. 00:48:25.395 --> 00:48:27.570 align:middle line:90% And that would be acceptable. 00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:29.040 align:middle line:90% OK, thank you. 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:32.580 align:middle line:84% Yes, and that is a good point, and I did not 00:48:32.580 --> 00:48:37.950 align:middle line:84% articulate it well in my initial presentation. 00:48:37.950 --> 00:48:41.640 align:middle line:84% What I would say is that we're becoming 00:48:41.640 --> 00:48:47.100 align:middle line:84% less of a sort of region special interest and more 00:48:47.100 --> 00:48:50.440 align:middle line:90% of a global everything interest. 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:55.110 align:middle line:84% So this would not reduce the power of a vote 00:48:55.110 --> 00:48:58.350 align:middle line:84% by people from Central Massachusetts or anywhere, 00:48:58.350 --> 00:48:59.070 align:middle line:90% really. 00:48:59.070 --> 00:49:04.050 align:middle line:84% It gives everywhere a much more equal vote. 00:49:04.050 --> 00:49:08.280 align:middle line:84% And as I tried to articulate, with our two-party system 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.060 align:middle line:84% and these congressional districts right now, 00:49:12.060 --> 00:49:16.620 align:middle line:84% a third party option just really isn't possible. 00:49:16.620 --> 00:49:19.530 align:middle line:84% But if we have this expanded district 00:49:19.530 --> 00:49:27.150 align:middle line:84% count with a whole state voting, that 00:49:27.150 --> 00:49:31.410 align:middle line:84% means that even a ninth party might have-- a ninth most 00:49:31.410 --> 00:49:34.710 align:middle line:84% important party might have enough votes to actually gain 00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:37.170 align:middle line:90% representation in Congress. 00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:40.890 align:middle line:84% Right now, unless you're part of one of the two parties, 00:49:40.890 --> 00:49:44.640 align:middle line:84% you have zero representation in Congress. 00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:48.840 align:middle line:84% And to even put it more finely, unless you're 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.060 align:middle line:84% part of the winning group, you have zero representation. 00:49:54.060 --> 00:49:57.030 align:middle line:84% This would give many more people a voice 00:49:57.030 --> 00:49:59.127 align:middle line:90% in the US federal government. 00:49:59.127 --> 00:50:03.700 align:middle line:90% 00:50:03.700 --> 00:50:07.100 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Christopher. 00:50:07.100 --> 00:50:10.280 align:middle line:84% Unless one of my other colleagues has a question, 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.790 align:middle line:90% we would move on to Joan Hill. 00:50:13.790 --> 00:50:15.882 align:middle line:84% Any of my colleagues would like to ask 00:50:15.882 --> 00:50:17.090 align:middle line:90% Christopher another question? 00:50:17.090 --> 00:50:21.620 align:middle line:90% 00:50:21.620 --> 00:50:22.966 align:middle line:90% He's bringing up some-- 00:50:22.966 --> 00:50:25.260 align:middle line:90% Hi. 00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:26.660 align:middle line:90% Is that Joan? 00:50:26.660 --> 00:50:36.340 align:middle line:84% No, it's me, and I will let that 9 and 1 question rest. 00:50:36.340 --> 00:50:40.150 align:middle line:84% My objection is that Cambridge is split down the middle, 00:50:40.150 --> 00:50:42.100 align:middle line:84% and we're one city, and it makes it 00:50:42.100 --> 00:50:46.450 align:middle line:84% difficult to have issues addressed citywide when we're 00:50:46.450 --> 00:50:47.980 align:middle line:90% splitting into two districts. 00:50:47.980 --> 00:50:50.500 align:middle line:84% And it looks to me as though it's 00:50:50.500 --> 00:50:52.870 align:middle line:84% quintessential gerrymandering to have 00:50:52.870 --> 00:50:56.650 align:middle line:84% the center of the butterfly in one district 00:50:56.650 --> 00:50:59.200 align:middle line:90% and the two wings in another. 00:50:59.200 --> 00:51:03.730 align:middle line:84% And it's all-- ever since from 10 years ago, it's bothered me 00:51:03.730 --> 00:51:04.840 align:middle line:90% that this has happened. 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:09.220 align:middle line:84% And I'm delighted to have Congresswoman Clark, as I'm 00:51:09.220 --> 00:51:13.090 align:middle line:90% in her district, as well as-- 00:51:13.090 --> 00:51:21.370 align:middle line:90% 00:51:21.370 --> 00:51:23.680 align:middle line:90% and anyway, in her district. 00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:26.180 align:middle line:84% And I would like to keep it that way. 00:51:26.180 --> 00:51:32.010 align:middle line:84% I think the whole city should be under her [INAUDIBLE].. 00:51:32.010 --> 00:51:33.840 align:middle line:90% And I think-- 00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.380 align:middle line:90% Go ahead. 00:51:36.380 --> 00:51:43.230 align:middle line:84% I'm also in Marjorie Decker's area and Senator Boncore. 00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:46.170 align:middle line:84% And I'm happy with all of them, but I 00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:49.890 align:middle line:84% think Cambridge needs to be a unified city. 00:51:49.890 --> 00:51:53.470 align:middle line:84% And having it split into two districts is silly. 00:51:53.470 --> 00:51:55.980 align:middle line:90% 00:51:55.980 --> 00:51:57.210 align:middle line:90% OK, thank you. 00:51:57.210 --> 00:51:59.130 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Joan. 00:51:59.130 --> 00:52:03.270 align:middle line:84% Just to give you a rationale for why that's done, 00:52:03.270 --> 00:52:07.065 align:middle line:84% Fresh Pond and the areas around MIT, 00:52:07.065 --> 00:52:11.220 align:middle line:84% who are majority-minority parts of Cambridge, 00:52:11.220 --> 00:52:15.960 align:middle line:84% and the reason we put them into the congressional district 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.830 align:middle line:84% there is because that is a majority-minority district. 00:52:19.830 --> 00:52:25.350 align:middle line:84% So we felt it was only right to let the folks that 00:52:25.350 --> 00:52:29.550 align:middle line:84% live in the Fresh Pond and MIT area who are majority-minority, 00:52:29.550 --> 00:52:33.930 align:middle line:84% put them in a district where they more closely are aligned 00:52:33.930 --> 00:52:35.970 align:middle line:84% with the person who now represents them, 00:52:35.970 --> 00:52:37.210 align:middle line:90% which is Ayanna Pressley. 00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:37.710 align:middle line:90% Right. 00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:38.580 align:middle line:90% So I just want to-- 00:52:38.580 --> 00:52:40.530 align:middle line:84% you can disagree with that or whatever. 00:52:40.530 --> 00:52:44.910 align:middle line:84% But that was the rationale behind it and why we did it. 00:52:44.910 --> 00:52:45.750 align:middle line:90% And-- 00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:46.450 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:52:46.450 --> 00:52:47.700 align:middle line:90% Just want to let you know why. 00:52:47.700 --> 00:52:48.530 align:middle line:90% That's all. 00:52:48.530 --> 00:52:49.890 align:middle line:90% OK, thank you so much. 00:52:49.890 --> 00:52:53.020 align:middle line:90% OK, no worries. 00:52:53.020 --> 00:52:53.870 align:middle line:90% So-- 00:52:53.870 --> 00:52:56.460 align:middle line:84% Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to call your attention 00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:59.550 align:middle line:84% to something that popped up in the Q&A. 00:52:59.550 --> 00:53:04.740 align:middle line:84% We have a Mr. Juan Jaramillo [INAUDIBLE],, 00:53:04.740 --> 00:53:08.000 align:middle line:84% of Revere who's asking to testify. 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.550 align:middle line:90% The mayor of Revere is asking-- 00:53:10.550 --> 00:53:12.645 align:middle line:90% Aide to the mayor of Revere is-- 00:53:12.645 --> 00:53:14.270 align:middle line:84% says the mayor could not attend, but we 00:53:14.270 --> 00:53:15.470 align:middle line:84% were hoping it would be possible for me 00:53:15.470 --> 00:53:16.550 align:middle line:90% to testify on his behalf. 00:53:16.550 --> 00:53:20.360 align:middle line:90% 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.670 align:middle line:84% I believe my staff has already told him yes, 00:53:22.670 --> 00:53:24.710 align:middle line:90% and he is on the list. 00:53:24.710 --> 00:53:25.580 align:middle line:90% OK, very good. 00:53:25.580 --> 00:53:28.160 align:middle line:90% 00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:34.565 align:middle line:84% Next to testify is Clarence Ligon. 00:53:34.565 --> 00:53:35.065 align:middle line:90% Ligon? 00:53:35.065 --> 00:53:41.017 align:middle line:90% 00:53:41.017 --> 00:53:42.100 align:middle line:90% Clarence, are you with us? 00:53:42.100 --> 00:53:51.800 align:middle line:90% 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:57.560 align:middle line:84% OK, Joel Rothstein is signed up but hasn't checked in yet. 00:53:57.560 --> 00:53:59.780 align:middle line:84% [? Renee ?] Hopper is also signed up 00:53:59.780 --> 00:54:01.925 align:middle line:90% and hasn't checked in yet. 00:54:01.925 --> 00:54:03.890 align:middle line:84% Clarence is in there. [? He just got on. ?] 00:54:03.890 --> 00:54:06.442 align:middle line:84% All right, Clarence, I'm understanding you're here. 00:54:06.442 --> 00:54:07.400 align:middle line:90% Clarence, are you here? 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:16.270 align:middle line:90% 00:54:16.270 --> 00:54:17.620 align:middle line:90% Clarence, I think, is on mute. 00:54:17.620 --> 00:54:21.090 align:middle line:90% 00:54:21.090 --> 00:54:22.930 align:middle line:90% OK, now I'm unmuted. 00:54:22.930 --> 00:54:24.690 align:middle line:84% All right, Clarence, there you are. 00:54:24.690 --> 00:54:25.230 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:26.610 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:54:26.610 --> 00:54:34.470 align:middle line:84% Thank you for the redistricting community chairs, Senator 00:54:34.470 --> 00:54:37.720 align:middle line:84% William Brownsberger, Representative Moran, 00:54:37.720 --> 00:54:40.170 align:middle line:84% and other members of the committee. 00:54:40.170 --> 00:54:43.020 align:middle line:84% Thank you for hosting this public hearing 00:54:43.020 --> 00:54:45.960 align:middle line:84% and your comments, commitment to engaging 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.310 align:middle line:84% as many grassroots organizations as possible 00:54:50.310 --> 00:54:52.980 align:middle line:90% during this process. 00:54:52.980 --> 00:54:55.080 align:middle line:90% My name is Clarence Ligon. 00:54:55.080 --> 00:54:59.040 align:middle line:84% I have been a member of the NAACP for many years, 00:54:59.040 --> 00:55:01.560 align:middle line:84% and I am currently the treasurer. 00:55:01.560 --> 00:55:05.250 align:middle line:84% I wanted to share my opinion that is essential 00:55:05.250 --> 00:55:08.700 align:middle line:84% that we continue to move Massachusetts closer 00:55:08.700 --> 00:55:12.360 align:middle line:84% to ensuring that everyone, including BIPOC 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.480 align:middle line:84% committees, low income people, and immigrants 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.320 align:middle line:90% have equitable representation. 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.690 align:middle line:84% What's troubling-- what's troubling me 00:55:21.690 --> 00:55:27.480 align:middle line:84% the most is the continuing inequities between residents, 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:32.220 align:middle line:84% like public education, housing, health care, and criminal law, 00:55:32.220 --> 00:55:34.650 align:middle line:90% and policing reform. 00:55:34.650 --> 00:55:39.100 align:middle line:84% I had been a resident in West Medford for over 30 years. 00:55:39.100 --> 00:55:45.010 align:middle line:84% We must keep an open public dialogue between community 00:55:45.010 --> 00:55:48.430 align:middle line:84% members and a redistricting committee, 00:55:48.430 --> 00:55:52.070 align:middle line:84% so we can work together to accomplish our goals. 00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:54.830 align:middle line:84% Four points should be emphasized. 00:55:54.830 --> 00:56:02.360 align:middle line:84% One, redistricting process is transparent and open to all. 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.650 align:middle line:84% Two, education and getting community members 00:56:06.650 --> 00:56:11.120 align:middle line:84% to participate in public forums and provide feedback 00:56:11.120 --> 00:56:13.580 align:middle line:90% on district maps. 00:56:13.580 --> 00:56:18.200 align:middle line:84% Three, increasing access to data and mapping tools 00:56:18.200 --> 00:56:22.940 align:middle line:84% to increase community voice and redistricting. 00:56:22.940 --> 00:56:29.360 align:middle line:84% Four, developing a statewide map that keeps historical 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.720 align:middle line:84% marginalized communities and increases the number 00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:37.370 align:middle line:84% of majority BIPOC districts to better reflect 00:56:37.370 --> 00:56:40.560 align:middle line:90% its entire population. 00:56:40.560 --> 00:56:44.090 align:middle line:84% Thank you, again, for your work on redis-- 00:56:44.090 --> 00:56:45.830 align:middle line:90% I can't get it out-- 00:56:45.830 --> 00:56:48.470 align:middle line:90% redistricting. 00:56:48.470 --> 00:56:51.600 align:middle line:90% Clarence, thank you. 00:56:51.600 --> 00:56:54.570 align:middle line:84% And I would encourage you, if you haven't already, 00:56:54.570 --> 00:57:02.120 align:middle line:84% to go on to our website, which is mahouse.gov. 00:57:02.120 --> 00:57:04.460 align:middle line:84% And when you go there, you will-- 00:57:04.460 --> 00:57:08.300 align:middle line:84% we provide you with three different links, 00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:13.070 align:middle line:84% so you can download a mapping software, so you can draw maps, 00:57:13.070 --> 00:57:14.880 align:middle line:84% and you can submit those maps to us. 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:15.380 align:middle line:90% So-- 00:57:15.380 --> 00:57:15.980 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:57:15.980 --> 00:57:17.720 align:middle line:84% A lot of the stuff on that website 00:57:17.720 --> 00:57:19.820 align:middle line:84% I think you will find very useful, 00:57:19.820 --> 00:57:22.550 align:middle line:84% and I think you'll see that we are 00:57:22.550 --> 00:57:24.980 align:middle line:84% trying to do a lot of the things that you would encourage 00:57:24.980 --> 00:57:25.520 align:middle line:90% us to do. 00:57:25.520 --> 00:57:29.480 align:middle line:84% So I just want to thank you for coming and giving us 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:30.260 align:middle line:90% your testimony. 00:57:30.260 --> 00:57:34.280 align:middle line:84% And hopefully, we'll see you again at one of these. 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:35.180 align:middle line:90% Thank you, sir. 00:57:35.180 --> 00:57:37.040 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Clarence. 00:57:37.040 --> 00:57:41.240 align:middle line:84% OK, next, we will have, from the mayor's office in Revere, Juan. 00:57:41.240 --> 00:57:42.490 align:middle line:90% Are you with us, Juan? 00:57:42.490 --> 00:57:56.129 align:middle line:90% 00:57:56.129 --> 00:57:58.210 align:middle line:90% Juan Diego Jaramillo? 00:57:58.210 --> 00:57:59.057 align:middle line:90% Hello? 00:57:59.057 --> 00:57:59.890 align:middle line:90% Juan, are you there? 00:57:59.890 --> 00:58:00.730 align:middle line:90% Oh, hello. 00:58:00.730 --> 00:58:01.660 align:middle line:90% Yes, hi. 00:58:01.660 --> 00:58:02.485 align:middle line:90% Can you see me? 00:58:02.485 --> 00:58:03.640 align:middle line:90% Yep, I apologize. 00:58:03.640 --> 00:58:05.943 align:middle line:84% When you signed up through the website, 00:58:05.943 --> 00:58:07.360 align:middle line:84% you didn't say the mayor's office, 00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.330 align:middle line:84% so that's why you didn't jump out at us. 00:58:09.330 --> 00:58:10.794 align:middle line:90% OK, right, yeah. 00:58:10.794 --> 00:58:11.710 align:middle line:90% I apologize for that. 00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:12.730 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry about that. 00:58:12.730 --> 00:58:14.320 align:middle line:90% No worries. 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:16.960 align:middle line:84% Yes, the mayor couldn't make it today. 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:22.090 align:middle line:84% But really, he wanted to express his full support 00:58:22.090 --> 00:58:26.980 align:middle line:84% for the collaboration with Congresswoman Clark. 00:58:26.980 --> 00:58:30.910 align:middle line:84% Revere has been very well served in the 5th Congressional 00:58:30.910 --> 00:58:36.460 align:middle line:84% District, especially over the past five years. 00:58:36.460 --> 00:58:39.940 align:middle line:84% Revere, in the context of the 5th District, 00:58:39.940 --> 00:58:44.320 align:middle line:84% is a community that really provides 00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.230 align:middle line:84% a vital supply of what became known 00:58:47.230 --> 00:58:50.200 align:middle line:84% as essential workers in the community. 00:58:50.200 --> 00:58:54.820 align:middle line:84% You see Revere residents working throughout the Boston area, 00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:57.880 align:middle line:84% working in Cambridge, working throughout the 5th 00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.910 align:middle line:90% Congressional District as well. 00:59:00.910 --> 00:59:04.630 align:middle line:84% As was mentioned earlier by a colleague in Malden, 00:59:04.630 --> 00:59:09.370 align:middle line:84% we have also struggled with having undocumented folks, 00:59:09.370 --> 00:59:12.970 align:middle line:84% undocumented residents that participate in our community 00:59:12.970 --> 00:59:15.580 align:middle line:90% and also provide essential work. 00:59:15.580 --> 00:59:19.090 align:middle line:84% We're grossly undercounted in the census. 00:59:19.090 --> 00:59:22.540 align:middle line:84% We understand, of course, that the US Census 00:59:22.540 --> 00:59:26.050 align:middle line:84% is the official tally that is in use, 00:59:26.050 --> 00:59:30.910 align:middle line:84% but we just wanted to call attention to that fact as well. 00:59:30.910 --> 00:59:34.300 align:middle line:84% Revere, in the past 10 years, has seen immense development 00:59:34.300 --> 00:59:40.720 align:middle line:84% and growth, both along the eastern border, Revere Beach, 00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:46.360 align:middle line:84% as well as in the western and northern areas of the city, 00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.330 align:middle line:84% where we border Malden and Everett. 00:59:50.330 --> 00:59:55.480 align:middle line:84% So really, we believe that we deserve 00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.570 align:middle line:90% to remain in the 5th District. 00:59:58.570 --> 01:00:01.720 align:middle line:84% We believe we are well served being fully within Senator 01:00:01.720 --> 01:00:04.630 align:middle line:90% Boncore's district as well. 01:00:04.630 --> 01:00:08.350 align:middle line:84% And we would like to advocate for a fair redistricting 01:00:08.350 --> 01:00:11.680 align:middle line:84% in terms of providing representation 01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:14.740 align:middle line:84% for working class people in the Commonwealth. 01:00:14.740 --> 01:00:16.630 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much. 01:00:16.630 --> 01:00:17.800 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:19.300 align:middle line:90% And our regards to the mayor. 01:00:19.300 --> 01:00:22.900 align:middle line:84% Tell him we said hello, and we appreciate your testimony. 01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:27.220 align:middle line:84% Next would be Nick and Jane Garcia. 01:00:27.220 --> 01:00:29.620 align:middle line:84% Nick and Jane Garcia, are you here? 01:00:29.620 --> 01:00:40.890 align:middle line:90% 01:00:40.890 --> 01:00:44.830 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 01:00:44.830 --> 01:00:49.500 align:middle line:90% 01:00:49.500 --> 01:00:50.000 align:middle line:90% Nick? 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.080 align:middle line:90% Nick and Jane Garcia? 01:00:51.080 --> 01:01:06.350 align:middle line:90% 01:01:06.350 --> 01:01:07.715 align:middle line:90% They appear to be muted. 01:01:07.715 --> 01:01:11.550 align:middle line:90% 01:01:11.550 --> 01:01:12.930 align:middle line:90% I need you to unmute, Nick. 01:01:12.930 --> 01:01:38.566 align:middle line:90% 01:01:38.566 --> 01:01:41.630 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] as we speak. 01:01:41.630 --> 01:01:44.970 align:middle line:90% All right, so let's stop. 01:01:44.970 --> 01:01:49.190 align:middle line:84% Nick is, I think, trying to unmute himself, 01:01:49.190 --> 01:01:52.160 align:middle line:90% or if he wants to speak. 01:01:52.160 --> 01:01:55.940 align:middle line:84% Karen [? Rothkin ?] is signed up and not here, 01:01:55.940 --> 01:02:01.940 align:middle line:84% as well as Linda [? Thomasetti. ?] Who is here 01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:08.090 align:middle line:84% is Richard Rosenberg from Holliston, Richard Rosenberg, 01:02:08.090 --> 01:02:13.280 align:middle line:90% who is representing Mass 350. 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.120 align:middle line:90% Richard, are you with us? 01:02:16.120 --> 01:02:17.420 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 01:02:17.420 --> 01:02:17.920 align:middle line:90% Hm? 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:18.470 align:middle line:90% He left. 01:02:18.470 --> 01:02:22.790 align:middle line:84% Richard has appeared to leave, so Richard is not here. 01:02:22.790 --> 01:02:25.160 align:middle line:90% How about Kenneth Bernard? 01:02:25.160 --> 01:02:25.670 align:middle line:90% Kenneth? 01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:27.500 align:middle line:90% I'm sorry, Keith Bernard. 01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:28.130 align:middle line:90% Keith Bernard? 01:02:28.130 --> 01:02:36.320 align:middle line:90% 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:37.530 align:middle line:90% Hello, there. 01:02:37.530 --> 01:02:38.030 align:middle line:90% Hey. 01:02:38.030 --> 01:02:39.670 align:middle line:90% How are you, Keith? 01:02:39.670 --> 01:02:41.330 align:middle line:90% I'm great. 01:02:41.330 --> 01:02:43.940 align:middle line:84% You know, I want to start off by thanking 01:02:43.940 --> 01:02:47.153 align:middle line:84% you, Chairman Moran and Chairman Brownsberger 01:02:47.153 --> 01:02:49.070 align:middle line:84% as well as the members of the Joint Committee, 01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:51.890 align:middle line:84% and I just want to thank [INAUDIBLE] in advance. 01:02:51.890 --> 01:02:53.730 align:middle line:84% My name is Keith Bernard, proud resident 01:02:53.730 --> 01:02:56.320 align:middle line:90% of Malden, Massachusetts. 01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.820 align:middle line:84% Thank you for letting me speak and providing the opportunity 01:02:58.820 --> 01:03:01.400 align:middle line:84% for the public to weigh in during this important step 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:04.880 align:middle line:84% of supporting the democratic process. 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.370 align:middle line:84% I'd like to reinforce the need, and it's 01:03:07.370 --> 01:03:10.250 align:middle line:84% been spoken of by several other people 01:03:10.250 --> 01:03:16.400 align:middle line:84% to please take into account the need for providing diversity 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.590 align:middle line:84% for our community as well as others 01:03:18.590 --> 01:03:21.560 align:middle line:84% throughout the congressional district. 01:03:21.560 --> 01:03:23.560 align:middle line:84% Just as a little background, this last summer, I 01:03:23.560 --> 01:03:25.730 align:middle line:84% had the opportunity to volunteer with one 01:03:25.730 --> 01:03:27.740 align:middle line:84% of our local mutual aid groups, and I got 01:03:27.740 --> 01:03:30.590 align:middle line:90% to meet many of my neighbors. 01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:34.790 align:middle line:90% Some of them were undocumented. 01:03:34.790 --> 01:03:38.930 align:middle line:84% They were in need, and they were afraid to get involved 01:03:38.930 --> 01:03:42.700 align:middle line:84% in some of the political processes 01:03:42.700 --> 01:03:44.840 align:middle line:90% in order to express their needs. 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.910 align:middle line:84% And I think it was very important for us, 01:03:48.910 --> 01:03:50.770 align:middle line:84% as a community, to join together, especially 01:03:50.770 --> 01:03:53.860 align:middle line:84% during the pandemic, to go and show them and try to encourage 01:03:53.860 --> 01:03:56.780 align:middle line:84% them to get counted, to go and show that we were going-- 01:03:56.780 --> 01:03:59.380 align:middle line:84% we would support them, that they were our neighbors 01:03:59.380 --> 01:04:04.270 align:middle line:84% no matter where they were in their immigration process. 01:04:04.270 --> 01:04:10.620 align:middle line:84% And also that they have families that have mixed status, where 01:04:10.620 --> 01:04:13.230 align:middle line:84% their children were citizens, and yet they 01:04:13.230 --> 01:04:16.200 align:middle line:90% might have been undocumented. 01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:18.520 align:middle line:90% They have a voice. 01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:20.650 align:middle line:84% They have a role to play in our society. 01:04:20.650 --> 01:04:26.190 align:middle line:84% A lot of them are important critical workers 01:04:26.190 --> 01:04:28.590 align:middle line:84% that stayed working throughout this summer. 01:04:28.590 --> 01:04:33.743 align:middle line:84% And we need to actually get out there and make sure 01:04:33.743 --> 01:04:35.910 align:middle line:84% that when we're redistricting, especially in Malden, 01:04:35.910 --> 01:04:39.090 align:middle line:84% where we've historically been undercounted, to make sure 01:04:39.090 --> 01:04:43.680 align:middle line:84% that we encourage them to continue going and speaking 01:04:43.680 --> 01:04:48.690 align:middle line:84% out, going and getting involved in discussions for our schools, 01:04:48.690 --> 01:04:51.420 align:middle line:84% for our roads, for our resources, 01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:54.030 align:middle line:84% and we're supporting them in general. 01:04:54.030 --> 01:04:56.310 align:middle line:90% We're a stronger district. 01:04:56.310 --> 01:04:58.920 align:middle line:90% We're a stronger city. 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:00.330 align:middle line:84% We're a stronger state, and we're 01:05:00.330 --> 01:05:03.150 align:middle line:84% a stronger nation if we have a diversity of opinions 01:05:03.150 --> 01:05:05.020 align:middle line:90% and experiences at the table. 01:05:05.020 --> 01:05:10.400 align:middle line:84% So again, thank you for this opportunity. 01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:12.440 align:middle line:84% When you're making your decisions, 01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.410 align:middle line:84% I want to just reinforce again, please 01:05:15.410 --> 01:05:19.770 align:middle line:84% make sure that you're going and doing everything 01:05:19.770 --> 01:05:22.270 align:middle line:84% that you can to go and make sure that everyone goes and gets 01:05:22.270 --> 01:05:26.400 align:middle line:84% represented and that we're not going and cutting up 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:32.130 align:middle line:84% neighborhood [INAUDIBLE] keep it from going and having 01:05:32.130 --> 01:05:33.380 align:middle line:90% those political voices. 01:05:33.380 --> 01:05:35.240 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:05:35.240 --> 01:05:35.960 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.360 align:middle line:90% I appreciate your testimony. 01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:40.670 align:middle line:84% We have every intent to do what you say, 01:05:40.670 --> 01:05:45.530 align:middle line:84% and last election redistricting process, 01:05:45.530 --> 01:05:49.310 align:middle line:84% we made the first ever fully majority-minority congressional 01:05:49.310 --> 01:05:53.030 align:middle line:84% district, and we created 20 majority-minority house seats 01:05:53.030 --> 01:05:55.370 align:middle line:84% as well as, I believe, there were at least-- 01:05:55.370 --> 01:05:56.870 align:middle line:90% well, correct me if I'm wrong. 01:05:56.870 --> 01:06:00.650 align:middle line:84% There were at least three or four majority-minority Senate 01:06:00.650 --> 01:06:02.660 align:middle line:90% districts that we created. 01:06:02.660 --> 01:06:05.030 align:middle line:84% And that was the most we could create 01:06:05.030 --> 01:06:07.040 align:middle line:84% and the most anybody create, looking at the map. 01:06:07.040 --> 01:06:11.360 align:middle line:84% So we're going to go at it with that same attitude this time. 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:13.580 align:middle line:84% And I think it's important that we do that. 01:06:13.580 --> 01:06:15.660 align:middle line:90% So I appreciate your testimony. 01:06:15.660 --> 01:06:16.400 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:18.230 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:06:18.230 --> 01:06:22.100 align:middle line:84% Next, I'm going to read off a few people that have signed up 01:06:22.100 --> 01:06:23.330 align:middle line:90% but are not here. 01:06:23.330 --> 01:06:28.370 align:middle line:84% [? Siobhan ?] [? Natun, ?] Claude [? Dizeer, ?] Neil 01:06:28.370 --> 01:06:32.810 align:middle line:84% [? Aresti, ?] Lawrence [? LaFour, ?] and Thomas 01:06:32.810 --> 01:06:36.590 align:middle line:84% [? Huff. ?] They've appeared to-- 01:06:36.590 --> 01:06:39.020 align:middle line:84% they've signed up but haven't checked in yet. 01:06:39.020 --> 01:06:43.400 align:middle line:84% So who has checked in is Norma [? Shulman ?] from Framingham. 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.920 align:middle line:90% Norma, are you there? 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:47.470 align:middle line:90% I'm here, and-- 01:06:47.470 --> 01:06:48.460 align:middle line:90% Hi, Norma. 01:06:48.460 --> 01:06:51.350 align:middle line:90% I'll start the video. 01:06:51.350 --> 01:06:54.610 align:middle line:84% Thank you very much to all of you for the opportunity 01:06:54.610 --> 01:06:55.930 align:middle line:90% to comment. 01:06:55.930 --> 01:07:00.340 align:middle line:84% I'm a long time resident and an activist in Framingham, 01:07:00.340 --> 01:07:03.100 align:middle line:84% and I'm honored to have three fine state 01:07:03.100 --> 01:07:06.910 align:middle line:84% representatives representing parts of Framingham. 01:07:06.910 --> 01:07:11.020 align:middle line:84% And, of course, our fine State Senator, the Senate President, 01:07:11.020 --> 01:07:14.380 align:middle line:84% and our Congresswoman Katherine Clark. 01:07:14.380 --> 01:07:16.990 align:middle line:84% I testified at a redistricting hearing 01:07:16.990 --> 01:07:19.540 align:middle line:90% following the previous census. 01:07:19.540 --> 01:07:23.650 align:middle line:84% From that experience, I have some of the same basic requests 01:07:23.650 --> 01:07:26.750 align:middle line:84% that I'd like to emphasize again. 01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:29.270 align:middle line:84% Some of these things have already been said, 01:07:29.270 --> 01:07:31.250 align:middle line:90% but I'll be brief. 01:07:31.250 --> 01:07:35.780 align:middle line:84% I-- it is important for Massachusetts 01:07:35.780 --> 01:07:38.690 align:middle line:84% to continue to set the best example 01:07:38.690 --> 01:07:43.100 align:middle line:84% for a transparent and neutral process. 01:07:43.100 --> 01:07:47.270 align:middle line:84% I request that voters who may be directly affected 01:07:47.270 --> 01:07:51.410 align:middle line:84% by census numbers that require a change at any level 01:07:51.410 --> 01:07:56.000 align:middle line:84% of their districts, to be directly informed in advance 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.760 align:middle line:84% and given the opportunity to provide input 01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.590 align:middle line:90% to proposed changes. 01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:06.330 align:middle line:84% Whenever possible, please keep precincts and neighborhoods 01:08:06.330 --> 01:08:09.170 align:middle line:90% and communities intact. 01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:12.920 align:middle line:84% Keep in mind that Framingham represents a widely diverse 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:17.149 align:middle line:84% population and requires your extra careful attention 01:08:17.149 --> 01:08:20.149 align:middle line:84% when considering drawing district lines. 01:08:20.149 --> 01:08:24.350 align:middle line:84% Thank you very much for your work. 01:08:24.350 --> 01:08:27.250 align:middle line:84% Thank you very much, Norma, for checking in with us. 01:08:27.250 --> 01:08:32.470 align:middle line:84% And as far as Framingham goes, I know last cycle, 01:08:32.470 --> 01:08:35.620 align:middle line:84% there's a sizable Latino population in Framingham, 01:08:35.620 --> 01:08:41.590 align:middle line:84% and we were able to put them all in one-- well, the precincts 01:08:41.590 --> 01:08:44.140 align:middle line:84% that were majority Latino, all into one 01:08:44.140 --> 01:08:45.620 align:middle line:90% district for that very reason. 01:08:45.620 --> 01:08:50.410 align:middle line:84% So we have no intent on breaking them up this time around. 01:08:50.410 --> 01:08:51.361 align:middle line:90% And you're right. 01:08:51.361 --> 01:08:53.319 align:middle line:84% You do have some fine representatives out there 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.729 align:middle line:84% in Framingham, so we appreciate your testimony. 01:08:55.729 --> 01:08:58.330 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 01:08:58.330 --> 01:09:02.260 align:middle line:84% Next, who is here, I believe, is Eric Volkin. 01:09:02.260 --> 01:09:06.250 align:middle line:90% Eric Volkin from Framingham? 01:09:06.250 --> 01:09:06.750 align:middle line:90% Hello. 01:09:06.750 --> 01:09:07.654 align:middle line:90% Good evening. 01:09:07.654 --> 01:09:08.359 align:middle line:90% Hey, Eric. 01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:09.350 align:middle line:90% How are you? 01:09:09.350 --> 01:09:10.200 align:middle line:90% Great, thanks. 01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:13.370 align:middle line:84% Hope everybody's doing well tonight. 01:09:13.370 --> 01:09:14.370 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:09:14.370 --> 01:09:17.359 align:middle line:84% Thank you for the opportunity to address the Special Joint 01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.189 align:middle line:90% Committee. 01:09:19.189 --> 01:09:20.540 align:middle line:90% My name is Eric Volkin. 01:09:20.540 --> 01:09:25.100 align:middle line:84% I'm a resident of the fighting 5th Congressional District. 01:09:25.100 --> 01:09:30.500 align:middle line:84% And I'm here to make sure that the Special Joint 01:09:30.500 --> 01:09:34.850 align:middle line:84% Committee, on this redistricting, 01:09:34.850 --> 01:09:38.330 align:middle line:84% has all the necessary information to draw 01:09:38.330 --> 01:09:42.080 align:middle line:84% a fair map for everybody and to really 01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:45.979 align:middle line:84% assure that the process is fair and transparent, as many 01:09:45.979 --> 01:09:47.689 align:middle line:90% have already mentioned. 01:09:47.689 --> 01:09:52.520 align:middle line:84% And really, my desire is to have the city of Framingham 01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:57.380 align:middle line:84% remain with the fighting 5th represented by Congresswoman 01:09:57.380 --> 01:09:58.370 align:middle line:90% Katherine Clark. 01:09:58.370 --> 01:10:00.980 align:middle line:84% And I really take pride in having 01:10:00.980 --> 01:10:03.320 align:middle line:84% Congressman Clark representing us 01:10:03.320 --> 01:10:06.830 align:middle line:84% and appreciate all her hard work and efforts. 01:10:06.830 --> 01:10:08.990 align:middle line:84% And it's basically the results that I've 01:10:08.990 --> 01:10:15.470 align:middle line:84% seen in these past few years that, really, it 01:10:15.470 --> 01:10:19.880 align:middle line:84% shows what can be done in Congress 01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:22.040 align:middle line:90% with the right representation. 01:10:22.040 --> 01:10:30.500 align:middle line:84% And where-- I do desire that, where the representation still 01:10:30.500 --> 01:10:34.665 align:middle line:84% remains after the redistricting is complete. 01:10:34.665 --> 01:10:37.460 align:middle line:90% 01:10:37.460 --> 01:10:40.040 align:middle line:84% And just to mention, Congresswoman Clark 01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:43.970 align:middle line:84% makes government very approachable and real for me. 01:10:43.970 --> 01:10:47.160 align:middle line:84% She actually listens to us and gets results. 01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:50.150 align:middle line:84% So thank you for this opportunity 01:10:50.150 --> 01:10:55.050 align:middle line:84% to address the committee, and I wish you all the best. 01:10:55.050 --> 01:10:55.760 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Eric. 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.730 align:middle line:90% I appreciate your testimony. 01:10:58.730 --> 01:11:01.190 align:middle line:84% I do want to recognize a couple of representatives 01:11:01.190 --> 01:11:04.820 align:middle line:84% who have joined us over the last few minutes. 01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:07.670 align:middle line:84% Representative Nick Boldyga is here, 01:11:07.670 --> 01:11:10.670 align:middle line:84% a member of the committee, as well as the gentleman from 01:11:10.670 --> 01:11:14.630 align:middle line:84% Boston, Representative Dan Hunt, and the gentleman from 01:11:14.630 --> 01:11:16.530 align:middle line:90% Lawrence-- no relation-- 01:11:16.530 --> 01:11:17.870 align:middle line:90% Frank Moran is here. 01:11:17.870 --> 01:11:19.860 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Frank, for attending. 01:11:19.860 --> 01:11:22.190 align:middle line:90% We appreciate your attendance. 01:11:22.190 --> 01:11:24.200 align:middle line:90% Next up to testify is-- 01:11:24.200 --> 01:11:27.470 align:middle line:84% I'm going to get this name wrong. 01:11:27.470 --> 01:11:29.600 align:middle line:84% I promise you that, and I apologize ahead of time. 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.750 align:middle line:90% It's Girish Pathak? 01:11:32.750 --> 01:11:33.590 align:middle line:90% Pathak? 01:11:33.590 --> 01:11:34.715 align:middle line:90% Girish Pathak from Sudbury? 01:11:34.715 --> 01:11:58.590 align:middle line:90% 01:11:58.590 --> 01:12:01.150 align:middle line:90% Hello, can you hear me? 01:12:01.150 --> 01:12:02.040 align:middle line:90% Yes, I can. 01:12:02.040 --> 01:12:04.620 align:middle line:84% And would you mind stating your name, 01:12:04.620 --> 01:12:06.540 align:middle line:90% so I can get it right next time? 01:12:06.540 --> 01:12:07.900 align:middle line:90% Absolutely. 01:12:07.900 --> 01:12:08.850 align:middle line:90% Absolutely. 01:12:08.850 --> 01:12:10.580 align:middle line:90% This is Girish Pathak. 01:12:10.580 --> 01:12:11.981 align:middle line:90% Oh, I came close. 01:12:11.981 --> 01:12:13.850 align:middle line:90% I came close. 01:12:13.850 --> 01:12:14.740 align:middle line:90% Good evening. 01:12:14.740 --> 01:12:15.240 align:middle line:90% I'm here. 01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:16.000 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:16.650 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:12:16.650 --> 01:12:17.280 align:middle line:90% Good evening. 01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:22.300 align:middle line:84% I'm Girish Pathak from the town of Sudbury and I'll be brief. 01:12:22.300 --> 01:12:26.700 align:middle line:84% I have just two questions, so call them inquisitions up sort. 01:12:26.700 --> 01:12:29.700 align:middle line:84% Two questions on the current map of the 5th Congressional 01:12:29.700 --> 01:12:30.960 align:middle line:90% District-- 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.400 align:middle line:84% the first question is, why is Sudbury 01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:37.170 align:middle line:90% split into two districts? 01:12:37.170 --> 01:12:40.380 align:middle line:84% The split dilutes the votes and voice of the Sudbury 01:12:40.380 --> 01:12:42.670 align:middle line:90% as a whole. 01:12:42.670 --> 01:12:48.140 align:middle line:84% And I'm not asking how we got there or why we are here. 01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:49.700 align:middle line:84% Instead, going forward, why not have 01:12:49.700 --> 01:12:51.800 align:middle line:90% Sudbury under one district? 01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.100 align:middle line:84% And that is my first suggestion in requesting a response 01:12:55.100 --> 01:12:56.670 align:middle line:90% to the question. 01:12:56.670 --> 01:13:00.380 align:middle line:84% The second question I have is, why is Congressional District 5 01:13:00.380 --> 01:13:01.670 align:middle line:90% so thin and long? 01:13:01.670 --> 01:13:03.410 align:middle line:90% It almost looks like a-- 01:13:03.410 --> 01:13:06.660 align:middle line:84% it looks between a pencil and a banana, if you will. 01:13:06.660 --> 01:13:09.140 align:middle line:84% And it has a basket of towns in it. 01:13:09.140 --> 01:13:12.380 align:middle line:84% As a result, any policy or bill at the district level cannot 01:13:12.380 --> 01:13:15.680 align:middle line:90% serve most towns, let alone all. 01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:19.130 align:middle line:84% There's hardly any common issue from one end to the other. 01:13:19.130 --> 01:13:23.360 align:middle line:84% Why not find a map close to a circle or a square 01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:26.030 align:middle line:90% or a polygon of the whole towns? 01:13:26.030 --> 01:13:27.950 align:middle line:84% Why not just have few whole towns, 01:13:27.950 --> 01:13:31.460 align:middle line:84% essentially from Metro West, presumably 01:13:31.460 --> 01:13:35.000 align:middle line:84% all from Middlesex County, adding up to 700-plus thousand 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:36.990 align:middle line:90% that you need? 01:13:36.990 --> 01:13:38.260 align:middle line:90% I'll stop here. 01:13:38.260 --> 01:13:39.650 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:13:39.650 --> 01:13:41.060 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Girish. 01:13:41.060 --> 01:13:46.190 align:middle line:84% I really can't comment on the second part of your question, 01:13:46.190 --> 01:13:52.370 align:middle line:84% because I don't know if the shape of a district 01:13:52.370 --> 01:13:58.490 align:middle line:84% necessarily is predictive of a homogeneous district. 01:13:58.490 --> 01:14:01.490 align:middle line:84% So that is up for interpretation. 01:14:01.490 --> 01:14:05.510 align:middle line:84% But the reason we did go down to-- 01:14:05.510 --> 01:14:10.910 align:middle line:84% why Sudbury was split is that we, last time around, 01:14:10.910 --> 01:14:17.930 align:middle line:84% because of what we understood to be one of the places 01:14:17.930 --> 01:14:21.590 align:middle line:84% where people were getting sued was you had to, 01:14:21.590 --> 01:14:27.140 align:middle line:84% on your process, was that you had to make your districts even 01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:30.030 align:middle line:90% in number down to the person. 01:14:30.030 --> 01:14:34.520 align:middle line:84% And since one of the principles or one of the objectives 01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:39.560 align:middle line:84% of the process last time was to not be sued, 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.260 align:middle line:84% which we weren't, by the way-- there was only five states that 01:14:42.260 --> 01:14:44.750 align:middle line:84% were, and we were one of them that weren't. 01:14:44.750 --> 01:14:49.700 align:middle line:84% Sorry, 45 states had litigation, and we were one of the five 01:14:49.700 --> 01:14:51.110 align:middle line:90% that weren't-- 01:14:51.110 --> 01:14:52.100 align:middle line:90% that didn't, sorry. 01:14:52.100 --> 01:14:56.510 align:middle line:84% And so we have to go down to one person. 01:14:56.510 --> 01:14:58.820 align:middle line:84% And to do that, you have to find-- 01:14:58.820 --> 01:15:00.680 align:middle line:84% you'd have to pick somewhere where 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.500 align:middle line:90% you'd have to split a town. 01:15:03.500 --> 01:15:06.620 align:middle line:84% And why we picked Sudbury, I can't really remember, 01:15:06.620 --> 01:15:08.080 align:middle line:90% but that was the reason for it. 01:15:08.080 --> 01:15:13.370 align:middle line:84% So just to give you why we did that, so hopefully, 01:15:13.370 --> 01:15:17.430 align:middle line:84% that's an answer-- a satisfactory answer for you. 01:15:17.430 --> 01:15:19.950 align:middle line:84% You may not like it, but it's the answer. 01:15:19.950 --> 01:15:21.570 align:middle line:90% My request remains the same. 01:15:21.570 --> 01:15:22.350 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:15:22.350 --> 01:15:22.560 align:middle line:90% All right. 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.310 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Girish. 01:15:23.310 --> 01:15:24.542 align:middle line:90% I appreciate it. 01:15:24.542 --> 01:15:26.750 align:middle line:84% OK, I want to mention some people that have signed up 01:15:26.750 --> 01:15:27.910 align:middle line:90% but are not here now. 01:15:27.910 --> 01:15:31.170 align:middle line:84% Patrick [? Kasmir ?] signed up, and he hasn't checked 01:15:31.170 --> 01:15:37.230 align:middle line:84% in, as well as Carla [? Shobanik. ?] But who has 01:15:37.230 --> 01:15:42.900 align:middle line:84% signed up and who is here is [? Giorgio ?] [? Bonmassar. ?] 01:15:42.900 --> 01:15:47.934 align:middle line:84% [? Bonmassa? ?] [? Bonmassa? ?] [? Giorgio ?] [? Bonmassar ?] 01:15:47.934 --> 01:15:51.390 align:middle line:90% from Lexington. 01:15:51.390 --> 01:15:52.840 align:middle line:90% Yes. 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:53.760 align:middle line:90% Hey, how are you? 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:55.320 align:middle line:90% Thanks for coming. 01:15:55.320 --> 01:15:56.658 align:middle line:90% Thank you, [INAUDIBLE]. 01:15:56.658 --> 01:15:59.530 align:middle line:90% 01:15:59.530 --> 01:16:01.940 align:middle line:84% Would you like to testify, Giorgio? 01:16:01.940 --> 01:16:03.620 align:middle line:90% No, just observe. 01:16:03.620 --> 01:16:04.490 align:middle line:90% Thank you so much. 01:16:04.490 --> 01:16:05.360 align:middle line:90% Oh, OK. 01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:06.200 align:middle line:90% No, my apologies. 01:16:06.200 --> 01:16:08.880 align:middle line:90% Thanks for letting me know. 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:12.470 align:middle line:90% OK, so we'll move to-- 01:16:12.470 --> 01:16:15.710 align:middle line:84% we will move to Lynn Sullivan, please. 01:16:15.710 --> 01:16:19.150 align:middle line:84% Lynn Sullivan, if you're here, we would love to hear from you. 01:16:19.150 --> 01:16:29.580 align:middle line:90% 01:16:29.580 --> 01:16:32.210 align:middle line:84% OK, Lynn Sullivan apparently has not-- 01:16:32.210 --> 01:16:34.190 align:middle line:90% was here, but left. 01:16:34.190 --> 01:16:38.420 align:middle line:84% An elected official who is here, who checked in, is Isaac Beers. 01:16:38.420 --> 01:16:41.330 align:middle line:84% He is a city councilor from Medford. 01:16:41.330 --> 01:16:43.010 align:middle line:90% Isaac, are you here? 01:16:43.010 --> 01:16:45.620 align:middle line:90% 01:16:45.620 --> 01:16:46.140 align:middle line:90% Hi, there. 01:16:46.140 --> 01:16:46.860 align:middle line:90% How are you? 01:16:46.860 --> 01:16:47.430 align:middle line:90% I'm great. 01:16:47.430 --> 01:16:48.620 align:middle line:90% How are you? 01:16:48.620 --> 01:16:49.700 align:middle line:90% Good, thank you. 01:16:49.700 --> 01:16:51.800 align:middle line:84% I appreciate you taking me out of turn. 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:53.105 align:middle line:90% I was in a council meeting. 01:16:53.105 --> 01:16:55.610 align:middle line:84% No, I assumed you were doing something, Isaac. 01:16:55.610 --> 01:16:58.730 align:middle line:84% I appreciate you checking in with us. 01:16:58.730 --> 01:16:59.550 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:16:59.550 --> 01:17:01.130 align:middle line:84% And thank you, Senator Brownsberger, 01:17:01.130 --> 01:17:03.770 align:middle line:84% Representative Moran, and members of the committee 01:17:03.770 --> 01:17:06.320 align:middle line:84% for hosting this public hearing and for your commitment 01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:08.900 align:middle line:84% to engaging with grassroots organizations 01:17:08.900 --> 01:17:10.970 align:middle line:84% throughout your redistricting process. 01:17:10.970 --> 01:17:14.480 align:middle line:84% I'm Isaac "Zac" Bears, a city councilor in Medford. 01:17:14.480 --> 01:17:18.170 align:middle line:84% And I'm here today to advocate for keeping all of Medford 01:17:18.170 --> 01:17:20.870 align:middle line:84% within Congressional District 5, as well as 01:17:20.870 --> 01:17:23.270 align:middle line:84% to encourage you to support racial and economic diversity 01:17:23.270 --> 01:17:25.550 align:middle line:84% throughout the redistricting process. 01:17:25.550 --> 01:17:28.340 align:middle line:84% Medford is a community of approximately 60,000 people, 01:17:28.340 --> 01:17:30.200 align:middle line:90% centered on the Mystic River. 01:17:30.200 --> 01:17:31.940 align:middle line:84% We have many different neighborhoods 01:17:31.940 --> 01:17:33.150 align:middle line:90% with many different fields. 01:17:33.150 --> 01:17:35.150 align:middle line:84% But we have certainly benefited from being 01:17:35.150 --> 01:17:38.120 align:middle line:84% within a single congressional district 01:17:38.120 --> 01:17:41.270 align:middle line:84% and being able to address federal issues with one 01:17:41.270 --> 01:17:42.350 align:middle line:90% member of Congress. 01:17:42.350 --> 01:17:45.170 align:middle line:84% We have issues around airplane noise, 01:17:45.170 --> 01:17:49.490 align:middle line:84% and we have Interstate 93 as well as 01:17:49.490 --> 01:17:52.910 align:middle line:84% all of the other federal policy issues that we care about. 01:17:52.910 --> 01:17:55.670 align:middle line:84% We also have a great benefit of being in a central location 01:17:55.670 --> 01:17:58.730 align:middle line:84% for the district, having previously hosted the district 01:17:58.730 --> 01:18:00.860 align:middle line:90% office in Medford Square. 01:18:00.860 --> 01:18:02.600 align:middle line:84% I would also like to add my voice 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:04.605 align:middle line:84% to the chorus of grassroots residents, 01:18:04.605 --> 01:18:06.980 align:middle line:84% activists, and groups, who are speaking about maintaining 01:18:06.980 --> 01:18:09.650 align:middle line:84% the integrity of their communities and neighborhoods 01:18:09.650 --> 01:18:13.340 align:middle line:84% in congressional districts, and as well as supporting 01:18:13.340 --> 01:18:16.850 align:middle line:84% racial and economic diversity as a priority during the process. 01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:19.880 align:middle line:84% I deeply appreciate your work and your time 01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:21.570 align:middle line:90% taking me to testify. 01:18:21.570 --> 01:18:25.280 align:middle line:84% And I look forward to future redistricting meetings 01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:28.560 align:middle line:84% regarding our State Senate and State House. 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:29.790 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:18:29.790 --> 01:18:30.530 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Isaac. 01:18:30.530 --> 01:18:34.430 align:middle line:90% I appreciate your testimony. 01:18:34.430 --> 01:18:37.190 align:middle line:84% Next up, I'm going to mention a few people that, again, signed 01:18:37.190 --> 01:18:38.232 align:middle line:90% up, but they're not here. 01:18:38.232 --> 01:18:44.060 align:middle line:84% Walter and Maggie [? Linehan, ?] Molly [? Asselin, ?] and Daniel 01:18:44.060 --> 01:18:47.210 align:middle line:84% [? Hynes ?] have signed up, but they don't [? appear. ?] But 01:18:47.210 --> 01:18:50.000 align:middle line:84% who has signed up and who is here is Jessica [? Farrell. ?] 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:51.890 align:middle line:84% Jessica [? Farrell, ?] are you here? 01:18:51.890 --> 01:19:23.012 align:middle line:90% 01:19:23.012 --> 01:19:26.870 align:middle line:84% OK, apparently, Jessica has left us. 01:19:26.870 --> 01:19:30.470 align:middle line:84% But Juan Pablo Jaramillo has not left us, 01:19:30.470 --> 01:19:32.590 align:middle line:84% so I believe he is here from Revere. 01:19:32.590 --> 01:19:35.420 align:middle line:90% 01:19:35.420 --> 01:19:37.220 align:middle line:84% Good evening, Chairman Moran, thank you, 01:19:37.220 --> 01:19:40.700 align:middle line:84% and to Chairman Brownsberger, and through you, to the members 01:19:40.700 --> 01:19:45.450 align:middle line:84% for hosting this very important meeting today. 01:19:45.450 --> 01:19:46.880 align:middle line:90% My name is Juan Pablo Jaramillo. 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:48.950 align:middle line:84% I am a formerly undocumented immigrant 01:19:48.950 --> 01:19:52.430 align:middle line:84% that immigrated right here to the first public beach 01:19:52.430 --> 01:19:56.840 align:middle line:84% in America, where I spent my entire life working 01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:00.770 align:middle line:84% as a community activist, as a legislative staffer, most 01:20:00.770 --> 01:20:05.960 align:middle line:84% recently as a candidate for office, and union member 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:10.640 align:middle line:84% and state committee member for the Democratic party. 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:13.010 align:middle line:84% I'm here to tell you a little bit about our city, 01:20:13.010 --> 01:20:16.640 align:middle line:84% city of Revere, which has expanded in growth 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.610 align:middle line:90% over the last 10 years. 01:20:19.610 --> 01:20:22.160 align:middle line:84% The district and census tract where I live, 01:20:22.160 --> 01:20:26.120 align:middle line:84% a largely immigrant working class community, 01:20:26.120 --> 01:20:29.600 align:middle line:84% largely underrepresented from the city level 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:35.300 align:middle line:84% all the way up to the federal level in terms of demographic. 01:20:35.300 --> 01:20:37.850 align:middle line:84% We have never had a person of color 01:20:37.850 --> 01:20:43.070 align:middle line:84% occupy any seat in any of these offices, 01:20:43.070 --> 01:20:45.590 align:middle line:84% and, therefore, I believe that it 01:20:45.590 --> 01:20:48.590 align:middle line:84% is time for a city that has grown 01:20:48.590 --> 01:20:52.340 align:middle line:84% in this region for some time to possibly 01:20:52.340 --> 01:20:56.390 align:middle line:84% add a second sure seat for the city of Revere 01:20:56.390 --> 01:20:59.420 align:middle line:84% to include more working class people. 01:20:59.420 --> 01:21:01.760 align:middle line:84% In particular, one of the legislative districts 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:08.330 align:middle line:84% in this city is split between Revere and Winthrop, a far 01:21:08.330 --> 01:21:11.690 align:middle line:90% richer and a far whiter town. 01:21:11.690 --> 01:21:15.020 align:middle line:84% And I am not, in any means, in any way, 01:21:15.020 --> 01:21:17.150 align:middle line:84% advocating for Winthrop to be split up, 01:21:17.150 --> 01:21:21.410 align:middle line:84% but rather that we can give a little bit more leverage 01:21:21.410 --> 01:21:25.310 align:middle line:84% to the working class people of Revere. 01:21:25.310 --> 01:21:27.770 align:middle line:90% And I must say-- 01:21:27.770 --> 01:21:30.170 align:middle line:84% I would be remiss to say that I am not well served 01:21:30.170 --> 01:21:33.140 align:middle line:84% by my former boss, Senator Joe Boncore, 01:21:33.140 --> 01:21:34.940 align:middle line:84% but I am here today in the capacity 01:21:34.940 --> 01:21:38.900 align:middle line:84% as the president of El Concilio Latino de Revere, where 01:21:38.900 --> 01:21:44.450 align:middle line:84% we advocate for social justice right here in the community. 01:21:44.450 --> 01:21:48.920 align:middle line:84% And we really would love to have more representation 01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:52.190 align:middle line:84% and opportunities for working class folks to run 01:21:52.190 --> 01:21:55.310 align:middle line:84% and represent this district, which, 01:21:55.310 --> 01:21:59.840 align:middle line:84% as was mentioned previously, provided a vital resource 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.880 align:middle line:84% to the region and first responders, 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.600 align:middle line:84% essential workers, my parents included, who 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.090 align:middle line:90% each worked 16 hours a week-- 01:22:08.090 --> 01:22:15.470 align:middle line:84% 16 hours a day and, therefore, would benefit 01:22:15.470 --> 01:22:18.630 align:middle line:90% from further representation. 01:22:18.630 --> 01:22:23.090 align:middle line:84% So again, thank you for your time for-- 01:22:23.090 --> 01:22:27.080 align:middle line:84% I know the amount of work that goes into this. 01:22:27.080 --> 01:22:30.260 align:middle line:84% And I know that you will do right 01:22:30.260 --> 01:22:32.120 align:middle line:84% by the residents of the Commonwealth 01:22:32.120 --> 01:22:33.800 align:middle line:84% and that you will take, hopefully, 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:38.250 align:middle line:90% my comments into consideration. 01:22:38.250 --> 01:22:41.420 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Chairman Moran and Chairman Brownsberger 01:22:41.420 --> 01:22:42.890 align:middle line:90% and to the members. 01:22:42.890 --> 01:22:44.480 align:middle line:90% Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. 01:22:44.480 --> 01:22:45.560 align:middle line:90% Yes, sir. 01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:47.330 align:middle line:90% Just a quick question. 01:22:47.330 --> 01:22:49.550 align:middle line:84% Could you just be a little clearer about what-- 01:22:49.550 --> 01:22:51.230 align:middle line:84% I get what you're trying to do, but sort 01:22:51.230 --> 01:22:52.647 align:middle line:84% of more specific about what you're 01:22:52.647 --> 01:22:56.280 align:middle line:84% urging as to whether it's a Senate district or a Rep 01:22:56.280 --> 01:22:56.780 align:middle line:90% district. 01:22:56.780 --> 01:22:59.140 align:middle line:84% I'm not even sure which one you're speaking to. 01:22:59.140 --> 01:23:01.160 align:middle line:84% No, so the Senate district probably 01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:04.640 align:middle line:84% makes a lot of sense, Senator-- or Chairman. 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.410 align:middle line:84% But if you look at the city of Revere, 01:23:06.410 --> 01:23:08.510 align:middle line:84% the eastern part of the city has really 01:23:08.510 --> 01:23:11.840 align:middle line:90% grown over the last few years. 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:14.870 align:middle line:84% It's also the part of the city that 01:23:14.870 --> 01:23:18.950 align:middle line:84% is home to a lot of the working class community, 01:23:18.950 --> 01:23:20.520 align:middle line:90% immigrant community. 01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:23.870 align:middle line:84% It's sad some of the concerns that were 01:23:23.870 --> 01:23:26.150 align:middle line:90% presented by the census is-- 01:23:26.150 --> 01:23:30.440 align:middle line:84% for example, the census tract where I live and grew up in 01:23:30.440 --> 01:23:34.520 align:middle line:84% answered the census at 51% compared to the city's 61%, 01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:35.870 align:middle line:90% which is still poor. 01:23:35.870 --> 01:23:41.310 align:middle line:84% The CD 5th answered upwards of 75% of their census tract. 01:23:41.310 --> 01:23:43.280 align:middle line:84% And I think that, obviously, a lot of factors 01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:44.330 align:middle line:90% played into that-- 01:23:44.330 --> 01:23:47.160 align:middle line:84% the fear mongering from the White House, et cetera. 01:23:47.160 --> 01:23:50.810 align:middle line:84% Organizations like ours really tried our best to kind of get 01:23:50.810 --> 01:23:51.950 align:middle line:90% as many people as counted. 01:23:51.950 --> 01:23:54.560 align:middle line:84% But the eastern part of the city, 01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:58.460 align:middle line:84% like I mentioned, working class, low to middle income 01:23:58.460 --> 01:24:01.290 align:middle line:84% families like mine and my parents, the western part 01:24:01.290 --> 01:24:05.900 align:middle line:84% of the city, fairly well represented. 01:24:05.900 --> 01:24:12.770 align:middle line:84% It's a far more affluent part of the city of Revere, 01:24:12.770 --> 01:24:20.270 align:middle line:84% yet both of these places have about the same populations 01:24:20.270 --> 01:24:22.920 align:middle line:84% despite them voting at different rates. 01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:25.230 align:middle line:84% And so what has happened continuously-- 01:24:25.230 --> 01:24:27.660 align:middle line:84% I mean, previously, we have been blessed 01:24:27.660 --> 01:24:32.370 align:middle line:84% and we were served by the Speaker of the House, 01:24:32.370 --> 01:24:37.020 align:middle line:84% so the district was, luckily, very well served. 01:24:37.020 --> 01:24:38.490 align:middle line:90% But it's time, right? 01:24:38.490 --> 01:24:41.640 align:middle line:84% As we think about the reckoning that our country is going 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.160 align:middle line:84% through, I think it is important to consider 01:24:44.160 --> 01:24:48.000 align:middle line:84% that while some populations might vote at lower numbers, 01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:51.900 align:middle line:84% they do have a clear voice when they do come out to vote 01:24:51.900 --> 01:24:54.450 align:middle line:84% and that it's important to take that into account 01:24:54.450 --> 01:24:56.670 align:middle line:84% as they are electing their leaders. 01:24:56.670 --> 01:24:58.170 align:middle line:84% And we can get a global conversation 01:24:58.170 --> 01:25:01.650 align:middle line:84% about how to encourage or make democracy more accessible, 01:25:01.650 --> 01:25:03.720 align:middle line:84% but this is one way that we can make democracy 01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:06.390 align:middle line:84% more accessible-- ensuring that the eastern part 01:25:06.390 --> 01:25:12.030 align:middle line:84% of this district, in particular, is kind of taken into account 01:25:12.030 --> 01:25:15.480 align:middle line:90% and based on different things. 01:25:15.480 --> 01:25:19.620 align:middle line:84% Like, we have all of the public transportation, 01:25:19.620 --> 01:25:23.520 align:middle line:84% rapid transit stops are in the eastern part of this district, 01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.080 align:middle line:84% which attracts, like I mentioned, 01:25:25.080 --> 01:25:28.020 align:middle line:90% more working class communities. 01:25:28.020 --> 01:25:32.790 align:middle line:84% Also, the eastern part of the district has-- 01:25:32.790 --> 01:25:36.630 align:middle line:84% the eastern part of the district has more multifamily homes, 01:25:36.630 --> 01:25:40.680 align:middle line:84% which means that we're seeing more working class folks here 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:42.870 align:middle line:84% compared to the western part of the district. 01:25:42.870 --> 01:25:44.970 align:middle line:84% For the 19th Suffolk legislative district, 01:25:44.970 --> 01:25:47.340 align:middle line:84% for example, which is where I live, 01:25:47.340 --> 01:25:51.240 align:middle line:84% this part is tied and anchored, as a voting bloc, 01:25:51.240 --> 01:25:57.450 align:middle line:84% by and with Winthrop-- more single family homes there. 01:25:57.450 --> 01:26:01.320 align:middle line:84% The poverty rate there is three times less 01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:04.110 align:middle line:84% than the poverty rate in the eastern part of the Revere 01:26:04.110 --> 01:26:05.370 align:middle line:90% part of that district. 01:26:05.370 --> 01:26:07.950 align:middle line:84% And populations are pretty evenly split. 01:26:07.950 --> 01:26:13.440 align:middle line:84% It's about-- and so, in fact, there 01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:15.750 align:middle line:84% might be a little bit more people in the Revere part 01:26:15.750 --> 01:26:17.890 align:middle line:90% of that legislative district. 01:26:17.890 --> 01:26:20.160 align:middle line:84% And again, I'm not advocating for Winthrop be split. 01:26:20.160 --> 01:26:23.280 align:middle line:84% I think that we should honor the people of that town 01:26:23.280 --> 01:26:28.440 align:middle line:84% to make sure that they have continued representation. 01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:31.890 align:middle line:84% But if we're looking at disenfranchised communities, 01:26:31.890 --> 01:26:34.350 align:middle line:84% historically disenfranchised communities, 01:26:34.350 --> 01:26:36.180 align:middle line:84% I think that what we're going to see 01:26:36.180 --> 01:26:38.190 align:middle line:84% from the results of the 2020 census, 01:26:38.190 --> 01:26:40.020 align:middle line:84% despite the challenges that we've 01:26:40.020 --> 01:26:42.480 align:middle line:84% had in the city of Revere to count as many people 01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:46.290 align:middle line:84% as we needed to, we're going to see the population growth here, 01:26:46.290 --> 01:26:48.060 align:middle line:84% and we're going to see the demographics 01:26:48.060 --> 01:26:51.270 align:middle line:84% and the economic data that's going to show us 01:26:51.270 --> 01:26:53.880 align:middle line:84% that this part of the city probably deserves a little bit 01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:58.890 align:middle line:84% more leverage in electing their leaders. 01:26:58.890 --> 01:26:59.850 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:26:59.850 --> 01:27:02.690 align:middle line:84% Thank you, Chairman Brownsberger. 01:27:02.690 --> 01:27:03.680 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Juan Pablo. 01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.890 align:middle line:84% I appreciate your comments, and we will take it-- 01:27:06.890 --> 01:27:09.750 align:middle line:84% we will take that under consideration. 01:27:09.750 --> 01:27:11.390 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:27:11.390 --> 01:27:14.733 align:middle line:84% Next up is [? Peter ?] [? Bronk. ?] [? Peter ?] 01:27:14.733 --> 01:27:16.150 align:middle line:84% [? Bronk, ?] are you here with us? 01:27:16.150 --> 01:27:19.620 align:middle line:90% 01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:21.930 align:middle line:84% [? Peter ?] [? Bronk ?] has left. 01:27:21.930 --> 01:27:26.890 align:middle line:90% How about Carl Fox? 01:27:26.890 --> 01:27:30.140 align:middle line:90% Carl Fox from Cambridge. 01:27:30.140 --> 01:27:32.380 align:middle line:90% Rothenhaus-- Rothenhaus, sorry. 01:27:32.380 --> 01:27:34.318 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] Rothenhaus? 01:27:34.318 --> 01:27:38.900 align:middle line:90% 01:27:38.900 --> 01:27:43.820 align:middle line:84% [INAUDIBLE] waiting for him to pop up. 01:27:43.820 --> 01:27:45.880 align:middle line:84% He's not-- Carl, we can't hear you. 01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:55.800 align:middle line:90% 01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:56.300 align:middle line:90% Nope. 01:27:56.300 --> 01:27:59.800 align:middle line:90% 01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:04.300 align:middle line:90% [LAUGHS] 01:28:04.300 --> 01:28:11.300 align:middle line:90% 01:28:11.300 --> 01:28:12.440 align:middle line:90% Does this work? 01:28:12.440 --> 01:28:12.940 align:middle line:90% No. 01:28:12.940 --> 01:28:13.740 align:middle line:90% There you go. 01:28:13.740 --> 01:28:16.360 align:middle line:90% There you go. 01:28:16.360 --> 01:28:17.060 align:middle line:90% Sorry, hello. 01:28:17.060 --> 01:28:19.310 align:middle line:84% Thanks, again, Senator Moran and Senator Brownsberger, 01:28:19.310 --> 01:28:21.790 align:middle line:84% members of the Committee on Redistricting. 01:28:21.790 --> 01:28:24.280 align:middle line:84% My name's Carl Rothenhaus I'm a soon 01:28:24.280 --> 01:28:27.040 align:middle line:84% to be graduated political science and geography 01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:29.980 align:middle line:84% student at the George Washington University. 01:28:29.980 --> 01:28:32.740 align:middle line:84% I'm also a resident of Cambridge. 01:28:32.740 --> 01:28:34.240 align:middle line:84% I believe that Massachusetts should 01:28:34.240 --> 01:28:37.180 align:middle line:84% be district, all seats, both state and federal, 01:28:37.180 --> 01:28:39.820 align:middle line:84% using the shortest split line method. 01:28:39.820 --> 01:28:42.160 align:middle line:84% It's the only way that I think to ensure that there's 01:28:42.160 --> 01:28:45.790 align:middle line:84% no bias in redistricting, because it's simply 01:28:45.790 --> 01:28:49.840 align:middle line:84% a spatial formula based upon where the people are. 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:52.310 align:middle line:84% As we know, the United States House of Representatives, 01:28:52.310 --> 01:28:54.820 align:middle line:84% a lot of the number of seats among the states 01:28:54.820 --> 01:28:59.390 align:middle line:84% using a mathematical formula, the Huntington Bill Method. 01:28:59.390 --> 01:29:01.150 align:middle line:84% So to me, it would logically follow 01:29:01.150 --> 01:29:04.900 align:middle line:84% that the division of seats among the people geographically 01:29:04.900 --> 01:29:10.130 align:middle line:84% also be a mathematical formula, the shortest [INAUDIBLE].. 01:29:10.130 --> 01:29:11.580 align:middle line:90% Excellent. 01:29:11.580 --> 01:29:12.360 align:middle line:90% Is that it? 01:29:12.360 --> 01:29:13.200 align:middle line:90% That's it. 01:29:13.200 --> 01:29:14.180 align:middle line:90% I love that bow tie. 01:29:14.180 --> 01:29:14.880 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:15.380 align:middle line:90% 01:29:15.380 --> 01:29:17.330 align:middle line:90% Good looking bow tie. 01:29:17.330 --> 01:29:18.060 align:middle line:90% Thanks, Carl. 01:29:18.060 --> 01:29:19.410 align:middle line:90% I appreciate your testimony. 01:29:19.410 --> 01:29:21.620 align:middle line:90% Thank you very much. 01:29:21.620 --> 01:29:26.880 align:middle line:84% Next up after Carl was Diana Jeong. 01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:32.550 align:middle line:84% Diana Jeong from Malden, Greater Malden Asian-American Community 01:29:32.550 --> 01:29:38.050 align:middle line:90% Coalition, Vice President. 01:29:38.050 --> 01:29:42.330 align:middle line:84% Yes, thank you so much for having me. 01:29:42.330 --> 01:29:44.520 align:middle line:84% As I said, my name is Diana Jeong. 01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:47.850 align:middle line:84% I'm the vice president of the Greater Malden Asian-American 01:29:47.850 --> 01:29:49.380 align:middle line:90% Community Coalition. 01:29:49.380 --> 01:29:51.690 align:middle line:84% And I was born in Malden, Massachusetts, 01:29:51.690 --> 01:29:53.460 align:middle line:84% and when we were growing up, there 01:29:53.460 --> 01:29:55.860 align:middle line:84% was only about half a dozen Chinese families 01:29:55.860 --> 01:29:57.660 align:middle line:90% in the city of Malden. 01:29:57.660 --> 01:30:02.970 align:middle line:84% But I think after the [INAUDIBLE] opened two stations 01:30:02.970 --> 01:30:06.870 align:middle line:84% in the mid-'70s, Asians were looking for safe and affordable 01:30:06.870 --> 01:30:11.610 align:middle line:84% housing, left Chinatown for Quincy and Malden. 01:30:11.610 --> 01:30:14.160 align:middle line:84% We believe that the 2020 census will 01:30:14.160 --> 01:30:16.770 align:middle line:84% show that the Asian population in Malden 01:30:16.770 --> 01:30:23.730 align:middle line:84% will be significantly increased from the 20000 census. 01:30:23.730 --> 01:30:25.740 align:middle line:84% And what happened in those 10 years? 01:30:25.740 --> 01:30:29.250 align:middle line:84% Well, Asians, including myself, truly 01:30:29.250 --> 01:30:32.280 align:middle line:90% consider Malden home, our home. 01:30:32.280 --> 01:30:34.350 align:middle line:90% We've purchased property here. 01:30:34.350 --> 01:30:37.890 align:middle line:84% We sent our kids through Malden public school systems. 01:30:37.890 --> 01:30:40.830 align:middle line:84% We've been increasingly involved in civic engagement 01:30:40.830 --> 01:30:44.040 align:middle line:84% and various volunteer activities throughout the city. 01:30:44.040 --> 01:30:47.880 align:middle line:84% We are no longer invisible, and we're not an asterisk. 01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:51.150 align:middle line:84% We are truly a part of the fabric of the city of Malden, 01:30:51.150 --> 01:30:53.250 align:middle line:84% and that's why I speak here tonight, 01:30:53.250 --> 01:30:55.920 align:middle line:84% because we want to make sure that when redistricting 01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:58.560 align:middle line:84% happens, all due consideration is given 01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:01.920 align:middle line:84% to ensure that Malden's Asian population is fairly 01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:03.330 align:middle line:90% represented. 01:31:03.330 --> 01:31:06.090 align:middle line:84% Malden is unique from its neighboring communities 01:31:06.090 --> 01:31:08.910 align:middle line:84% and the depth and width of its diversity. 01:31:08.910 --> 01:31:12.240 align:middle line:84% Quite frankly, over 70 languages are spoken at Malden High 01:31:12.240 --> 01:31:16.320 align:middle line:84% School, and I don't want to see that uniqueness diluted 01:31:16.320 --> 01:31:19.630 align:middle line:84% or the Asian population further underrepresented. 01:31:19.630 --> 01:31:21.690 align:middle line:84% That's all I have to say, and I truly thank you 01:31:21.690 --> 01:31:23.970 align:middle line:90% for your consideration. 01:31:23.970 --> 01:31:24.970 align:middle line:90% Diana, thank you. 01:31:24.970 --> 01:31:29.447 align:middle line:84% We appreciate your genuine and fine testimony. 01:31:29.447 --> 01:31:30.030 align:middle line:90% OK, thank you. 01:31:30.030 --> 01:31:30.840 align:middle line:90% Have a good evening. 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:31.230 align:middle line:90% You, too. 01:31:31.230 --> 01:31:31.730 align:middle line:90% Bye bye. 01:31:31.730 --> 01:31:33.420 align:middle line:90% OK, bye bye. 01:31:33.420 --> 01:31:42.020 align:middle line:84% So we have Dave [? McGinty. ?] Dave [? McGinty? ?] All right, 01:31:42.020 --> 01:31:42.920 align:middle line:90% Dave is not here. 01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.620 align:middle line:84% Alan [? Strauss ?] is also not here but signed up. 01:31:45.620 --> 01:31:48.140 align:middle line:90% 01:31:48.140 --> 01:31:51.650 align:middle line:90% Eden Garrett Smith from Malden-- 01:31:51.650 --> 01:31:52.745 align:middle line:90% she is here, I believe. 01:31:52.745 --> 01:32:09.310 align:middle line:90% 01:32:09.310 --> 01:32:11.550 align:middle line:90% Hi, can you hear me? 01:32:11.550 --> 01:32:13.270 align:middle line:90% Yes, we can. 01:32:13.270 --> 01:32:13.970 align:middle line:90% Hello? 01:32:13.970 --> 01:32:14.470 align:middle line:90% Yeah. 01:32:14.470 --> 01:32:15.230 align:middle line:90% OK. 01:32:15.230 --> 01:32:17.260 align:middle line:84% I just want to say I live in Malden, 01:32:17.260 --> 01:32:20.470 align:middle line:84% and I agree with Diane, who just spoke. 01:32:20.470 --> 01:32:24.010 align:middle line:84% And I feel like Malden [INAUDIBLE].. 01:32:24.010 --> 01:32:25.930 align:middle line:84% In terms of state reps, we have three, 01:32:25.930 --> 01:32:28.390 align:middle line:84% and I'm one of the ones tagged on to Medford. 01:32:28.390 --> 01:32:29.230 align:middle line:90% And I just-- 01:32:29.230 --> 01:32:31.060 align:middle line:84% I've lived here for 20 years, and I just 01:32:31.060 --> 01:32:36.070 align:middle line:84% find it kind of frustrating as a voter. 01:32:36.070 --> 01:32:38.320 align:middle line:90% I don't feel represented. 01:32:38.320 --> 01:32:40.870 align:middle line:84% I just feel like an afterthought being part of Malden 01:32:40.870 --> 01:32:42.640 align:middle line:84% with a rep from Medford, and I don't 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.600 align:middle line:84% feel like there's any way to be representative by a Maldenian. 01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:49.900 align:middle line:84% And I feel the same way looking at parts of Malden that 01:32:49.900 --> 01:32:51.478 align:middle line:90% are represented by Melrose. 01:32:51.478 --> 01:32:53.020 align:middle line:84% I can't say how they feel, but I feel 01:32:53.020 --> 01:32:54.790 align:middle line:90% like we're split into three. 01:32:54.790 --> 01:33:01.060 align:middle line:84% And earlier in this commentary, the school committee member 01:33:01.060 --> 01:33:03.550 align:middle line:84% from Arlington said they're only split into two. 01:33:03.550 --> 01:33:05.768 align:middle line:90% And, like, I just-- 01:33:05.768 --> 01:33:06.310 align:middle line:90% I don't know. 01:33:06.310 --> 01:33:07.840 align:middle line:90% I mean, Malden's pretty diverse. 01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:09.730 align:middle line:84% It is very diverse, and just the idea 01:33:09.730 --> 01:33:12.010 align:middle line:84% that we're split into three, that maybe, in some ways, 01:33:12.010 --> 01:33:13.570 align:middle line:84% we're more representative, because we have 01:33:13.570 --> 01:33:14.920 align:middle line:90% three people representing us. 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:16.870 align:middle line:84% But I really don't feel that way. 01:33:16.870 --> 01:33:19.120 align:middle line:84% And I mean, you know the stats more than I do, 01:33:19.120 --> 01:33:21.940 align:middle line:84% but I can only just say, as a human being, 01:33:21.940 --> 01:33:24.580 align:middle line:84% I get a postcard for my birthday, 01:33:24.580 --> 01:33:27.490 align:middle line:84% but I want to be represented in more than just a birthday 01:33:27.490 --> 01:33:28.600 align:middle line:90% card from my rep. 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:30.490 align:middle line:84% Like, I want the person to know me. 01:33:30.490 --> 01:33:32.650 align:middle line:84% And I can only say that the person that knows me 01:33:32.650 --> 01:33:35.050 align:middle line:84% is the person that lives in Malden, but he's not my rep. 01:33:35.050 --> 01:33:36.130 align:middle line:90% So thank you. 01:33:36.130 --> 01:33:39.050 align:middle line:90% That's all I have to say. 01:33:39.050 --> 01:33:39.880 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Eden. 01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:43.150 align:middle line:90% We appreciate your testimony. 01:33:43.150 --> 01:33:45.970 align:middle line:84% I'm going to name a bunch of people here that are not here. 01:33:45.970 --> 01:33:49.120 align:middle line:84% And I believe we're coming to the end of people that have 01:33:49.120 --> 01:33:52.150 align:middle line:90% registered and have signed in. 01:33:52.150 --> 01:34:03.720 align:middle line:84% So David Stafford, Jonathan Paz, Edward Cross, Barbara Kim, 01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:11.160 align:middle line:84% Emily [? Shatzo, ?] [? Dimple ?] [? Rayana, ?] Elizabeth Cabot, 01:34:11.160 --> 01:34:20.230 align:middle line:84% Eleanor [? McLean, ?] Linda Thorson, John Looney, 01:34:20.230 --> 01:34:25.760 align:middle line:84% Robert [? Sanclemente, ?] but I believe Toby Frost is here. 01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:27.180 align:middle line:90% Toby, are you here from Lincoln? 01:34:27.180 --> 01:34:45.250 align:middle line:90% 01:34:45.250 --> 01:34:47.260 align:middle line:84% I'm not prepared to say anything. 01:34:47.260 --> 01:34:48.910 align:middle line:90% I came to look. 01:34:48.910 --> 01:34:50.360 align:middle line:90% That's quite all right, Toby. 01:34:50.360 --> 01:34:52.500 align:middle line:84% We appreciate you coming to look. 01:34:52.500 --> 01:34:54.160 align:middle line:90% Thank you very, very much. 01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:58.210 align:middle line:84% I'm sorry you had to look at me, but that's OK. 01:34:58.210 --> 01:35:01.450 align:middle line:84% Thank you very, very much for checking in, Toby. 01:35:01.450 --> 01:35:04.960 align:middle line:84% I believe, at that point, the last person on the list was 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:08.230 align:middle line:84% [? Steven ?] [? Peson ?] from Ashland, 01:35:08.230 --> 01:35:09.580 align:middle line:90% but I don't believe he's here. 01:35:09.580 --> 01:35:10.720 align:middle line:90% [INAUDIBLE] 01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:14.628 align:middle line:84% And we're going to try Nick and Jane Garcia. 01:35:14.628 --> 01:35:15.920 align:middle line:90% We're going to go back to them. 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.980 align:middle line:90% I believe they're still here. 01:35:17.980 --> 01:35:21.320 align:middle line:84% They haven't had a chance to testify, but they're still on. 01:35:21.320 --> 01:35:24.010 align:middle line:84% If they want to testify, just please let us know. 01:35:24.010 --> 01:35:41.870 align:middle line:90% 01:35:41.870 --> 01:35:43.460 align:middle line:90% They are muted, it looks like. 01:35:43.460 --> 01:35:44.750 align:middle line:90% OK. 01:35:44.750 --> 01:35:48.223 align:middle line:84% So folks, this was a little bit faster hearing 01:35:48.223 --> 01:35:49.640 align:middle line:84% than I thought it was going to be. 01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:52.610 align:middle line:84% We have a bunch of people that have signed up, 01:35:52.610 --> 01:35:56.950 align:middle line:84% but they have not checked in with us. 01:35:56.950 --> 01:35:59.960 align:middle line:84% I will remind them, if they are listening, 01:35:59.960 --> 01:36:05.900 align:middle line:84% that there will be many chances to testify moving forward. 01:36:05.900 --> 01:36:10.850 align:middle line:84% And they could testify either by sending us 01:36:10.850 --> 01:36:15.620 align:middle line:84% their testimony, written testimony through the website, 01:36:15.620 --> 01:36:20.450 align:middle line:84% or they could testify at the next hearing 01:36:20.450 --> 01:36:23.790 align:middle line:84% or multiple hearings that we're going to have down the road. 01:36:23.790 --> 01:36:29.450 align:middle line:84% The next hearing that we will have is on Monday, May 24, 01:36:29.450 --> 01:36:32.600 align:middle line:90% and that will start at 5:30. 01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:36.110 align:middle line:84% It centers around the 2nd congressional district. 01:36:36.110 --> 01:36:38.270 align:middle line:84% For those of you who don't know that district, 01:36:38.270 --> 01:36:39.740 align:middle line:84% that is the one that is currently 01:36:39.740 --> 01:36:44.270 align:middle line:90% represented by Jim McGovern. 01:36:44.270 --> 01:36:47.750 align:middle line:84% And it's Worcester County, lots of Worcester County, 01:36:47.750 --> 01:36:51.200 align:middle line:84% the Blackstone Valley, parts of the Blackstone Valley. 01:36:51.200 --> 01:36:55.040 align:middle line:84% Again, that will be Monday, May 22, at 5:30. 01:36:55.040 --> 01:36:59.780 align:middle line:84% There will also be a Zoom hearing. 01:36:59.780 --> 01:37:03.530 align:middle line:84% My chairman, my co-chair, Senator Brownsberger 01:37:03.530 --> 01:37:05.180 align:middle line:90% will be running that one. 01:37:05.180 --> 01:37:06.890 align:middle line:84% And I will remind everybody that's here, 01:37:06.890 --> 01:37:10.070 align:middle line:84% please visit their redistricting website, 01:37:10.070 --> 01:37:13.850 align:middle line:90% malegislature.gov/redistricting. 01:37:13.850 --> 01:37:15.830 align:middle line:84% There is a whole bunch of stuff on there 01:37:15.830 --> 01:37:18.480 align:middle line:84% that I think you will find helpful. 01:37:18.480 --> 01:37:20.090 align:middle line:90% And I think it will-- 01:37:20.090 --> 01:37:23.600 align:middle line:90% you will find educational. 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:26.390 align:middle line:84% So hearing that there's no one else here to testify, 01:37:26.390 --> 01:37:29.120 align:middle line:84% I'd like to adjourn this hearing and thank everybody 01:37:29.120 --> 01:37:32.512 align:middle line:90% for their participation. 01:37:32.512 --> 01:37:34.790 align:middle line:90% Do I have a second on that? 01:37:34.790 --> 01:37:35.870 align:middle line:90% Seconded, Mr. Chairman. 01:37:35.870 --> 01:37:39.300 align:middle line:84% All right, this committee on redistricting is adjourned. 01:37:39.300 --> 01:37:39.910 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:37:39.910 --> 01:37:40.910 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:37:40.910 --> 01:37:41.870 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 01:37:41.870 --> 01:37:43.190 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:37:43.190 --> 01:37:44.570 align:middle line:90% Thank you for your patience. 01:37:44.570 --> 01:37:45.890 align:middle line:90% Have a good night, everybody. 01:37:45.890 --> 01:37:46.515 align:middle line:90% Nice job, guys. 01:37:46.515 --> 01:37:47.848 align:middle line:90% Mr. Chairman, have a good night. 01:37:47.848 --> 01:37:48.780 align:middle line:90% All right, bye bye. 01:37:48.780 --> 01:37:51.040 align:middle line:90% Thank you, good night. 01:37:51.040 --> 01:38:17.078 align:middle line:90%